Omen38

I've searched around on this, and other aviation forums but I haven't really been able to find the answer I'm looking for. My apologies if this has already been asked.

So, I was in UPT back in 2002, and had a back injury that I later had to have repaired surgically. At first, I thought the pain was manageable, so I tried to tough it out. That plan failed...

I got to midphase check, and hooked that, plus the subsequent 89 ride. Commander's review didn't go well, so I got moved on. Fast-forward to today, and I now have a class 1 medical, and 2 fused vertebrae. I am using my post 9/11 GI Bill for flight hours ratings, and was wondering what exactly the T-37 time counts for. Can I use it towards a multi-engine rating? Most of what I've read suggests that its not good for much other than "Total time", unless you were on a solo (which I did do twice).

Thanks for your help!!!

Tweetdrvr

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fl...t-washout.html

See this thread from last week.

Title: Section 61.41 - Flight training received from flight instructors not certificated by the FAA.
Context: Title 14 - Aeronautics and Space. CHAPTER I - FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (CONTINUED). SUBCHAPTER D - AIRMEN. PART 61 - CERTIFICATION: PILOTS, FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS, AND GROUND INSTRUCTORS. Subpart A - General.
§ 61.41Flight training received from flight instructors not certificated by the FAA.
(a) A person may credit flight training toward the requirements of a pilot certificate or rating issued under this part, if that person received the training from:
(1) A flight instructor of an Armed Force in a program for training military pilots of either—
(i) The United States; or
(ii) A foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation.

Slim11

Total time, maybe some night and cross country time. It definitely counts for total ME time. Your solo time is PIC.

I was also medically disqualified from UPT after about 10 hours in the Tweet. My problem was blood pressure. The FAA knows and isn't too concerned. This was back in the mid-1980s. I used Montgomery GI Bill to finish.

Good luck!

Omen38

Awesome! Thanks guys.

1Seat 1Engine

I remember something about a centerline thrust restriction but you can get that removed pretty easily.

Hacker15e

That is a specific certificate restriction...since the OP never graduated UPT, he was never eligible to have the comm/multi with the centerline thrust restriction issued (based on the mil comp) in the first place.

There is no such thing as "centerline thrust multiengine time", only "multiengine time", so the Tweet time can count toward the experience requirements to get the FAA rating.

JohnBurke

You don't need time toward a multi rating. There is no time requirement for a multi engine airplane rating; the only requirement is that you pass a checkride.

Yes, the T-37 is centerline thrust, but unless you're planning on taking your checkride in a T-37, the issue of centerline thrust is irrelevant. It's still multi-engine time in a multi engine experience.

All you need for your rating is an instructor recommendation and a checkride. If the checkride doesn't take place in a centerline thrust airplane, then there's no centerline thrust limitation to be placed on your certificate.

An exception exists if you've only flown military aircraft and you're doing a FAA certificate based on a military conversion, and your multi engine time is all military centerline (T37 is considered centerline thrust). In that case, you'd need an additional checkride in a non-centerline thrust aircraft. Your time in the T37 would still be considered multi-engine experience, however.

If you'll be taking your multi checkride in a civil light twin as most do (Seminole, Seneca, Travel Air, etc), then you'll have no issues or restrictions.


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