Airline Chances With a Q-3
08-29-2015, 02:50 PM
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Any of you guys know what airlines ask for the FEF besides Delta? Obviously, I'll have to answer yes to the question about failed check rides on all of the apps which will provoke the conversation regardless. Just curious who else asks to see the actual FEF.
08-31-2015, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by aviator77
Fellas,
Just curious what my chances are when it comes to getting hired at a legacy with a Q-3 for cause in my FEF. All other check rides have been Q-1 with a downgrade or two, several with commendables. The Q-3 was for a bad decision to continue an unstable approach and a late decision to go around resulting in aircraft damage. Am I facing a tough road ahead with regard to airline hiring? Anyone in the same situation had any luck?
TIA!
Just curious what my chances are when it comes to getting hired at a legacy with a Q-3 for cause in my FEF. All other check rides have been Q-1 with a downgrade or two, several with commendables. The Q-3 was for a bad decision to continue an unstable approach and a late decision to go around resulting in aircraft damage. Am I facing a tough road ahead with regard to airline hiring? Anyone in the same situation had any luck?
TIA!
09-01-2015, 07:26 AM
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Wow! That's encouraging. Especially Delta. I had heard that they ask for pretty much all of your mil records to include your FEF, OPRs, flying history, etc. I don't know how thoroughly they look at the details of that stuff though.
09-01-2015, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by aviator77
Fellas,
Just curious what my chances are when it comes to getting hired at a legacy with a Q-3 for cause in my FEF. All other check rides have been Q-1 with a downgrade or two, several with commendables. The Q-3 was for a bad decision to continue an unstable approach and a late decision to go around resulting in aircraft damage. Am I facing a tough road ahead with regard to airline hiring? Anyone in the same situation had any luck?
TIA!
Just curious what my chances are when it comes to getting hired at a legacy with a Q-3 for cause in my FEF. All other check rides have been Q-1 with a downgrade or two, several with commendables. The Q-3 was for a bad decision to continue an unstable approach and a late decision to go around resulting in aircraft damage. Am I facing a tough road ahead with regard to airline hiring? Anyone in the same situation had any luck?
TIA!
USN Natops is pass fail, if I gave a downgrade to everyone in the F-18 that bent metal in the sim, 50% would fail. The whole idea behind the check ride was to give compounding and complicated emergencies, to make guys work. The kind off off the wall crap that has a 1 in a billion chance of ever happening.
So the USAF has taken the zero defect expectations to the sim. That's awesome.
Originally Posted by aviator77
Wow! That's encouraging. Especially Delta. I had heard that they ask for pretty much all of your mil records to include your FEF, OPRs, flying history, etc. I don't know how thoroughly they look at the details of that stuff though.
09-01-2015, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
You guys get graded on your annual check ride? And get sh1t on if you bend metal?!!?!?
USN Natops is pass fail, if I gave a downgrade to everyone in the F-18 that bent metal in the sim, 50% would fail. The whole idea behind the check ride was to give compounding and complicated emergencies, to make guys work. The kind off off the wall crap that has a 1 in a billion chance of ever happening.
So the USAF has taken the zero defect expectations to the sim. That's awesome.
United didn't care to see anything other than logbooks. DAL is a special breed of hiring crazy.
USN Natops is pass fail, if I gave a downgrade to everyone in the F-18 that bent metal in the sim, 50% would fail. The whole idea behind the check ride was to give compounding and complicated emergencies, to make guys work. The kind off off the wall crap that has a 1 in a billion chance of ever happening.
So the USAF has taken the zero defect expectations to the sim. That's awesome.
United didn't care to see anything other than logbooks. DAL is a special breed of hiring crazy.
09-01-2015, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FLY6584
You don't have to be on a check ride to fail a check ride (Q3 a flight). You can be on a normal flight without a check airman on board and if you bone something up or bend metal you can be given a Q3.
09-01-2015, 11:11 AM
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You are marketable. You have to tell your story. It is a mistake, but one mistake doesn't define you. Subsequent successes and upgrades paint a bigger picture of who you are.
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