Turkish F-16 Shoots Down Su-24
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Reports saying Assad forces rescued the downed Co-Pilot and he has RTB. Co-Pilot stated they know the area like the back of their hand and were not over the border (that angle strip is 1.85mi wide). Also stated that no warnings issued visually or over the radio.
Glad one made it home.
Missing Russian jet pilot 'alive and well' in Syria - BBC News
http://sputniknews.com/russia/201511...violation.html
Glad one made it home.
Missing Russian jet pilot 'alive and well' in Syria - BBC News
http://sputniknews.com/russia/201511...violation.html
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I was listening to NPR in the car yesterday, and they reported there was video of the Turks shooting at the pilots while they were in the silk, and one of them was killed....so isn't there evidence now of a war crime?
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Allegedly, the shooting was done by Turkmen rebels in Syria.
Turkmen are ethnic Turks who live in northern Syria. Some observers believe the Russians were bombing them, since they are anti-Assad, but Turkey is secretly allied with them.
This border incursion was a flimsy excuse to engage and cover Turkey's true rationale.
And yes, shooting at someone in a parachute is a war crime....assuming you can hold an abstract body such as "rebel group" accountable.
Or if we even subscribe to the notion that somehow, the waging of war can be made "civilized."
Turkmen are ethnic Turks who live in northern Syria. Some observers believe the Russians were bombing them, since they are anti-Assad, but Turkey is secretly allied with them.
This border incursion was a flimsy excuse to engage and cover Turkey's true rationale.
And yes, shooting at someone in a parachute is a war crime....assuming you can hold an abstract body such as "rebel group" accountable.
Or if we even subscribe to the notion that somehow, the waging of war can be made "civilized."
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Doubtful.
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How many times was the story/narrative altered or changed by our government over the air strike that hit the hospital? Or over other events for that matter?
NOTHING is what it seems till the facts are revealed. Especially when you factor in all the sides, factions, and frenemies involved in this one.
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For now......
How many times was the story/narrative altered or changed by our government over the air strike that hit the hospital? Or over other events for that matter?
NOTHING is what it seems till the facts are revealed. Especially when you factor in all the sides, factions, and frenemies involved in this one.
How many times was the story/narrative altered or changed by our government over the air strike that hit the hospital? Or over other events for that matter?
NOTHING is what it seems till the facts are revealed. Especially when you factor in all the sides, factions, and frenemies involved in this one.
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