AFRC and Stop Loss
#21
I am confused on your question. For two weeks notice this does not apply to AGR and that has always been EOT or 6 months. They have stopped curtailing AGR tours at most units. We are talking about people getting out of a TR gig before your retirement put in your paperwork and asked to be excused til 1 Nov it is not hard.
"Therefore, voluntary and involuntary reassignments to the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), retirements, and voluntary and involuntary discharges from the Selected Reserve approved between 1 Feb 16 – 30 Sep 16 must have an effective loss date no earlier than 1 Nov 16.”
You have no commitment and want to separate? Denied for nine NINE! months. You want to go PIRR? Denied for nine months. You want to retire (not ETS)? Denied for nine months. You want to kick a slug out of your unit? Denied for nine months. Etc.
When pressed, the unit (at least mine) says "You WILL maintain currency and qualification". How they plan to enforce that, I'm not sure but it sounds like wings across AFRC are all of a sudden extremely concerned that they won't be able to pay their bills. But guess what--that's their problem. They've ignored the initial buffett, they've ignored the shaker, and now they're in a full stall. What they have yet to realize is that their only hope is to release the back pressure. But they're acting like some rookie pilot and continue to pull back as hard as they can. If leadership doesn't max, relax, roll real soon this won't end well.
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 291
Read the memo. It states:
"Therefore, voluntary and involuntary reassignments to the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), retirements, and voluntary and involuntary discharges from the Selected Reserve approved between 1 Feb 16 – 30 Sep 16 must have an effective loss date no earlier than 1 Nov 16.”
You have no commitment and want to separate? Denied for nine NINE! months. You want to go PIRR? Denied for nine months. You want to retire (not ETS)? Denied for nine months. You want to kick a slug out of your unit? Denied for nine months. Etc.
When pressed, the unit (at least mine) says "You WILL maintain currency and qualification". How they plan to enforce that, I'm not sure but it sounds like wings across AFRC are all of a sudden extremely concerned that they won't be able to pay their bills. But guess what--that's their problem. They've ignored the initial buffett, they've ignored the shaker, and now they're in a full stall. What they have yet to realize is that their only hope is to release the back pressure. But they're acting like some rookie pilot and continue to pull back as hard as they can. If leadership doesn't max, relax, roll real soon this won't end well.
"Therefore, voluntary and involuntary reassignments to the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), retirements, and voluntary and involuntary discharges from the Selected Reserve approved between 1 Feb 16 – 30 Sep 16 must have an effective loss date no earlier than 1 Nov 16.”
You have no commitment and want to separate? Denied for nine NINE! months. You want to go PIRR? Denied for nine months. You want to retire (not ETS)? Denied for nine months. You want to kick a slug out of your unit? Denied for nine months. Etc.
When pressed, the unit (at least mine) says "You WILL maintain currency and qualification". How they plan to enforce that, I'm not sure but it sounds like wings across AFRC are all of a sudden extremely concerned that they won't be able to pay their bills. But guess what--that's their problem. They've ignored the initial buffett, they've ignored the shaker, and now they're in a full stall. What they have yet to realize is that their only hope is to release the back pressure. But they're acting like some rookie pilot and continue to pull back as hard as they can. If leadership doesn't max, relax, roll real soon this won't end well.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2012
Position: Babysitter
Posts: 975
Seems like the AFRC has their head up their butt and don't realize what the TR's will resort to. Just saying. Once you're above, let's say 16/17 years you've pretty much done your duty. So, it's all about your QOL........Sorry, I have a cold, not going to make it this month.......and many more reasons......and if you have 19+ good years!!!! don't even expect much.........you get 15 points for breathing and all you need is 35 more for a good year.
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Posts: 900
Manning in the ANG and AFRC is not an easy thing to manage because we maintain a force with a bunch of "free agents". There are no bonuses tied to commitments to keep people in past 10 and you run the risk of an empty squadron by letting your most experienced guys stay past 20 because they're free to push that button at a moment's notice. That's exactly what's going on right now.
The uncertainty that 9/11 brought to the airline industry kept a lot of guys hitting 20 in the mid to late 2000's in until the units were kicking them out at 28 yrs. Instead of flushing them and replacing them with fresh meat, we took pride in the fact we had a squadron full of Lt Col's with 10's of thousands of hours. Well now that just about everyone is sick of the AD mentality and ops tempo being forced down our throats, people are leaving in full force.
The uncertainty that 9/11 brought to the airline industry kept a lot of guys hitting 20 in the mid to late 2000's in until the units were kicking them out at 28 yrs. Instead of flushing them and replacing them with fresh meat, we took pride in the fact we had a squadron full of Lt Col's with 10's of thousands of hours. Well now that just about everyone is sick of the AD mentality and ops tempo being forced down our throats, people are leaving in full force.
#25
Manning in the ANG and AFRC is not an easy thing to manage because we maintain a force with a bunch of "free agents". There are no bonuses tied to commitments to keep people in past 10 and you run the risk of an empty squadron by letting your most experienced guys stay past 20 because they're free to push that button at a moment's notice. That's exactly what's going on right now.
The uncertainty that 9/11 brought to the airline industry kept a lot of guys hitting 20 in the mid to late 2000's in until the units were kicking them out at 28 yrs. Instead of flushing them and replacing them with fresh meat, we took pride in the fact we had a squadron full of Lt Col's with 10's of thousands of hours. Well now that just about everyone is sick of the AD mentality and ops tempo being forced down our throats, people are leaving in full force.
The uncertainty that 9/11 brought to the airline industry kept a lot of guys hitting 20 in the mid to late 2000's in until the units were kicking them out at 28 yrs. Instead of flushing them and replacing them with fresh meat, we took pride in the fact we had a squadron full of Lt Col's with 10's of thousands of hours. Well now that just about everyone is sick of the AD mentality and ops tempo being forced down our throats, people are leaving in full force.
#26
Manning in the ANG and AFRC is not an easy thing to manage because we maintain a force with a bunch of "free agents". There are no bonuses tied to commitments to keep people in past 10 and you run the risk of an empty squadron by letting your most experienced guys stay past 20 because they're free to push that button at a moment's notice. That's exactly what's going on right now.
The uncertainty that 9/11 brought to the airline industry kept a lot of guys hitting 20 in the mid to late 2000's in until the units were kicking them out at 28 yrs. Instead of flushing them and replacing them with fresh meat, we took pride in the fact we had a squadron full of Lt Col's with 10's of thousands of hours. Well now that just about everyone is sick of the AD mentality and ops tempo being forced down our throats, people are leaving in full force.
The uncertainty that 9/11 brought to the airline industry kept a lot of guys hitting 20 in the mid to late 2000's in until the units were kicking them out at 28 yrs. Instead of flushing them and replacing them with fresh meat, we took pride in the fact we had a squadron full of Lt Col's with 10's of thousands of hours. Well now that just about everyone is sick of the AD mentality and ops tempo being forced down our throats, people are leaving in full force.
The "top heavy" issue was a major concern when I got hired. Guess the experience in your unit explains why that was such a big deal.
#27
Running the House
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 119
Its an end strength numbers issue for Congress nothing more. No one at AFRC cares if people actually show up as long as they are on the books. Want to kick out the bad apple put him on no pay no points and give him a 1 nov date, got a guy that is done but not retiring well that takes 6 to 8 months now anyway so excuse them for September and October no issue. If an individual unit has a manning or currency policy in a particular AFSC that is a different issue but for the letter is only about end strength numbers.
#28
Its an end strength numbers issue for Congress nothing more. No one at AFRC cares if people actually show up as long as they are on the books. Want to kick out the bad apple put him on no pay no points and give him a 1 nov date, got a guy that is done but not retiring well that takes 6 to 8 months now anyway so excuse them for September and October no issue. If an individual unit has a manning or currency policy in a particular AFSC that is a different issue but for the letter is only about end strength numbers.
#29
Running the House
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 119
Not at my wing but we are not in the bucket between now and November. They did this same exact thing last year. What are they going to do if you don't show. Discharge you on 1 Nov? If you are getting out anyway and already have an airline job what happens to you?
#30
40 drills/year and 12 days AD are mandatory.