Is it hard to be an AF reservist and RJ PILOT
04-28-2016, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXative
What if the stud used to be on the Embry Riddle Eagles Flight Team? They fly precision maneuvers every day for competition.
But generally I would think the more and diverse flying experience you have the better going into UPT, but ONLY if you can keep your eyes, ears, and mind open and mouth SHUT.
04-28-2016, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXative
What if the stud used to be on the Embry Riddle Eagles Flight Team? They fly precision maneuvers every day for competition.
It's like all flying, how much of it is positive transfer, or negative transfer, of previous experience?
04-28-2016, 06:56 AM
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And there's always the Peter Principle -
Good in up to 10 kt crosswinds, sucks above that.
Good in turboprops, struggles in jets.
Good in the T-37, scared of the T-38.
Good at offensive BFM, sucks at defensive BFM.
Good if he stays 'within the box', struggles when the situation gets tougher.
Good up to about 3G's, flounders at higher G's.
Good in up to 10 kt crosswinds, sucks above that.
Good in turboprops, struggles in jets.
Good in the T-37, scared of the T-38.
Good at offensive BFM, sucks at defensive BFM.
Good if he stays 'within the box', struggles when the situation gets tougher.
Good up to about 3G's, flounders at higher G's.
04-28-2016, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Not to get too far off topic. I still see a LOT of military guys paying for their own ATP CTP before joining a regional. DON'T! Any reputable regional carriers will pay it for you. Not sure how else to get the word out to mil guys.
04-28-2016, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FLY6584
It's definitely not a waste. I went to UPT with my instrument and about 250hrs and it made UPT a lot easier in my opinion. As long as you have the right attitude about your previous experience.
04-28-2016, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingTigerDPH
I am at a regional now and was also just picked up by a guard unit in my hometown. Airlines are easy with military leave because in the end of the day they have reserves to cover what you can't. Just let them know when you need to leave as soon as you can and they just block off your schedule for it. They are definitely supportive of it and it doesn't seem to be a big deal. After just under a year at the regional, I'm about to leave, start UPT and then come back to better seniority as I will build it while at training. I think it's a great route to go.
04-28-2016, 05:02 PM
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Nope, at UPT, whatever your previous flight time, you start out like the guy who has never been in a plane. T-6, then split to either T-1 for heavies or T-38C for fighters/bombers, then RTU on your assigned plane-major weapons system, in AF speak.
Typically, guys with lots of previous time learn quicker, but it's no guarantee--it's attitude, do you want to become an AF pilot? Some guys with loads of time have washed out. I sent a Atlas B744 guy to UPT--he did fine, but not as good as the fuel truck driver in the unit who barely had 10 hours (all he could afford) who was the top stick in his class.
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Typically, guys with lots of previous time learn quicker, but it's no guarantee--it's attitude, do you want to become an AF pilot? Some guys with loads of time have washed out. I sent a Atlas B744 guy to UPT--he did fine, but not as good as the fuel truck driver in the unit who barely had 10 hours (all he could afford) who was the top stick in his class.
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04-28-2016, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy738
If I was an ATP and flying for a regional what would I do in UTP? Would I still train in their training aircraft or would I skip that since I have everything already?
That's like saying, "I work out and swim a lot, can I get my Navy Seal Trident?"
I realize you're new and don't understand the nuances, just realize it's an insult to everyone with Air Force wings when people suggest their previous experience qualifies them to skip UPT.
(I'm done, go easy on the Beaver)
04-29-2016, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXative
What if the stud used to be on the Embry Riddle Eagles Flight Team? They fly precision maneuvers every day for competition.
Originally Posted by Billy738
If I was an ATP and flying for a regional what would I do in UTP? Would I still train in their training aircraft or would I skip that since I have everything already?
Yea..right...This is military flight school! Not sitting in the right seat of your manly CRJ-200! Everyone is the same day one! A zero time newbie!
04-29-2016, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy738
I was planning on waiting until I got on with a regional since the airline industry goes up and down, also I need some time to get in shape. . If I was an ATP and flying for a regional what would I do in UTP? Would I still train in their training aircraft or would I skip that since I have everything already?
The flying you do as an Air Force pilot in UPT is far more advanced than what you do in civilian GA/121/135/91 (with rare exceptions) You are flying very high performance aircraft often in close proximity to other aircraft, or at low altitudes, etc. I'm not starting a mil/civ debate, just telling you how it is. I had 2500 hours when I went to UPT. I assure you that the thought of "skipping" UPT never crossed my mind.
Air Force student pilots aren't earning certificates and ratings. They are learning to fly to the point that the actual flying is second nature, so that they can then learn to employ their weapon system.
