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Old 05-30-2016, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
GDMA had a lot of success because they were doing business, not espionage. Banging a hooker is one thing, easy to rationalize. Presumably those folks would not have knowingly sold out to a foreign in intel service..
Who's to say GDMA wasn't a front for a foreign intel service?
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Old 05-31-2016, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg View Post
This is my shocked face...
WOW me too.
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15 View Post
I wonder how USPA-IRA (now First Command) managed to have such an impact on/around bases.
I remember my very first CC, at my very first squadron, bringing in all of the new Lieutenants for a meeting in which he heavily pushed USPA-IRA's services.

Several of us took the bait, and couldn't get free of it until over a decade later.

I've often wondered what he got back for pushing all of us sheep to the slaughter.

Today, I just looked at LinkedIn, he's working at a major defense contractor.
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Old 05-31-2016, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e View Post
I remember my very first CC, at my very first squadron, bringing in all of the new Lieutenants for a meeting in which he heavily pushed USPA-IRA's services.

Several of us took the bait, and couldn't get free of it until over a decade later.

I've often wondered what he got back for pushing all of us sheep to the slaughter.

Today, I just looked at LinkedIn, he's working at a major defense contractor.
To Hacker's point, there are some good officers caught up in this debacle that truly had no knowledge of it, yet their name was on a guest list or they attended a social function as a squadron XO/CO while in port as directed by their leadership; so guilty by association. One of those particular officers was on the Navy Flag list over a year ago and is still wearing O-6 well behind his peer group...a shame!
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select View Post
Who's to say GDMA wasn't a front for a foreign intel service?
Real risk of that. I'm not advocating this sort of behavior...

But in this case I think GDMA was interested in money, and professional crooks usually know that getting involved with espionage can attract unwanted attention from entities who may not have the same boundaries as law enforcement.

Same reason the Mexican cartels don't smuggle AQ or ISIL operators across the Rio grand. They know they can buy their own government, but not SOCOM, or OGA preds..
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Sickening.
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