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Old 10-11-2016, 01:43 PM
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I flew A-10 and separated from the AF in 2010. I have been in sales since, so I haven't flown but want to get back into flying. Through a divorce, my flight hour logs from the AF were lost. I've tried my old base 1Cs, the MPRC, and have asked a number of pilots and 1Cs past and present, but have been unable to obtain a copy of my records and have hit a wall.

If anyone has had this issue or known someone who has, I'd appreciate any info you may have.
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Old 10-11-2016, 02:59 PM
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Can't help with the actual flight records, sorry--but, you should be able to get a hold of your SURF. That will have summary data of your last five (?) aircraft flown. If you were purely an A-10 guy, that should make it easy enough to reconstruct enough to present at an interview with a brief explanation of why you don't have the "real" records (assuming you can't get them)....

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Old 10-11-2016, 04:50 PM
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Your DD214 should have summaries of your flight times and ratings, at least, mine did.

Worth a try: visit the closest flying unit and go to their Flight Records shop.

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I know Flight Records are not likely here, but who knows what they store these days?
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:05 PM
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I also retired in 2010. My DD214 doesn't have any flying hour information on it at all.

FWIW, my understanding is that (in the 2010 timeframe anyway) there was but one hardcopy of your FRF, which you signed out from your old base and handcarried to your new base. When I retired, that hardcopy was given to me. I asked them if there was any other record besides that one (particularly an electronic one) and my base's wing flight management NCOIC told me there wasn't--that was it...

Didn't make sense to me since the printouts obviously came from an electronic record, but that's the response I got. Maybe they delete you from the system when you separate/retire.
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:05 PM
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Probably a long shot, but call the SARM/HARM office at your last A-10 base. They are part of the OSS, and may have some advice.
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:42 AM
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Yup, you leave with the only copy of your flight records, form 8's and the like -- prior to 2010. After 2010 some units began migrating away from SIMSPRO and the derivatives to the new eTIMS and its derivatives. By 2014 it was pretty much USAF wide. Records after 2010 may be digitally archived.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:46 AM
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I know it doesn't answer your question as the OPer but here's a pitch to all those military pilots out there who think they may even possibly continue their flying career after the military: The military WILL screw up your flight records so keep your own accurate personal logbook, and nowadays (which wasn't much of an option back in the day) keep your own electronic logbook that you can back up in multiple locations....
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Recommend, not worrying about them. Not sure your background would fit in with the majors. I'll stop there.

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Old 10-13-2016, 01:44 AM
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Multiple jobs, divorced, and $hit in the street? He sounds like about 50% of the airline guys I know....he should be just fine....

C'mon back. If the phone doesnt ring do the regionals 12 mnths and you are right back in the game.
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Old 10-13-2016, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TSRAGR View Post
Recommend, not worrying about them. Not sure your background would fit in with the majors. I'll stop there.
That may have been true a few years ago but not now. I retired long before 2010, non- flying job, and got the call, at least to interview. I had been keeping 'current' as a part time CFI though.
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