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Old 12-05-2016, 06:42 PM
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:43 PM
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Waste and inefficiency is inherent in almost any large organization, most particularly government. You can contain and control it but never eliminate it, particularly in a democratic/republican form of government.

The challenge is identifying and achieving consensus on actual waste. One man's waste is another man's requirement. Coming from the washington post, I wouldn't take it on faith.

Also in some cases the government could spend a dollar trying to save a dime.
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The Air Farce could burn through that in one LGBT Kwanza Party.
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I would be willing to bet a large chuck of that waste goes into that waste of a country Afghanistan. Here's the latest example of an absolute joke of another failed project over there. And this is a just a drop in the bucket as a whole for the fraud waste and abuse over there. Yet, most of this goes unreported and the current administration takes no responsibility and virtually no heat for this crap.

Abandoned $85 Million Hotel, Apartment Complex in Kabul Guarded on US Taxpayers' Dime - ABC News
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Waste and inefficiency is inherent in almost any large organization, most particularly government. You can contain and control it but never eliminate it, particularly in a democratic/republican form of government.

The challenge is identifying and achieving consensus on actual waste. One man's waste is another man's requirement. Coming from the washington post, I wouldn't take it on faith.

Also in some cases the government could spend a dollar trying to save a dime.
Any military or civil service veteran has stories of the "perverse incentives" which actually encourage waste:

-- if your unit doesn't use all of its fuel allotment, you will get less next year, and maybe run short.

-- similarly, all remaining funds in your budget must be disposed of by panic-spending as the fiscal year draws to a close.

-- if you can expand the number of workers under your supervision (whether you need them or not), you may be entitled to a GS step increase because of the extra responsibility.

-- the only way to get rid of a lout in your unit is to get him promoted into a bigger job someplace else, where he can do even more damage.

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Remember flying up and down the West Coast doing "training" so that they would get the same allocation for fuel dollars in the future year. Apparently we had actually used less than in the previous year. The annual CFI, etc etc ***
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman View Post
Any military or civil service veteran has stories of the "perverse incentives" which actually encourage waste:

-- if your unit doesn't use all of its fuel allotment, you will get less next year, and maybe run short.

-- similarly, all remaining funds in your budget must be disposed of by panic-spending as the fiscal year draws to a close.

-- if you can expand the number of workers under your supervision (whether you need them or not), you may be entitled to a GS step increase because of the extra responsibility.

-- the only way to get rid of a lout in your unit is to get him promoted into a bigger job someplace else, where he can do even more damage.



Great post (as usual).
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:13 AM
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And the deficit continues to get LARGER...

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