atpcliff

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"I am at a loss to figure out how a simple $4K increase in pay, coupled with a $2K larger pretax flexible spending deduction (this year), and(sic) the same two dependents under 17, that I go from getting a $1400 refund and never having to pay AMT (last year) to not only paying AMT, but owing $2600 this year. I dread this year's return. It is hard not to cry.

"Nina Olson, the IRS National Taxpayer Advocate, says if there were one single change she could make in the tax laws, it would be to eliminate the AMT.

"What is unbelievable is that a majority of Americans do not know or understand the AMT. When I talk to co-workers and friends they have no clue of what AMT means. People who have an understanding of the AMT need to get the word out because this is very important!

AMT:
The Alternative Minimum Tax was instituted in 1969 to prevent very wealthy people from paying NO income tax (there were only about 155 taxpayers in this category). If they were able to find enough loopholes to not pay Income Tax, the AMT would catch them and make them pay their fair share.

Unfortunately, the AMT was NOT indexed for inflation, so what was a LOT of income in 1969, is still the income floor for AMT now. Inflation has gone up a LOT in the last 40 years!

What upsets me off, royally, is that there are a number of taxpayers earning $1mill+, who are STILL paying NO income tax, even with the AMT!

What's even worse, is that the AMT tax rates are at 26% and 28% of your income. So the wealthiest Americans aren't subject to the AMT at all, as the max Income Tax rates are 33% and 35%. So, we, the Middle-Class and Upper Middle-Class taxpayers, have to pay an additional tax that the rich don't!

“The only acceptable form of Socialism in the U.S. is Socialism for the rich.”

If U haven't paid AMT yet, get ready. The last three or four years Congress has raised the income floor for AMT, to try and prevent a wholesale taxpayer revolt. Unless they keep this up every year, or abolish the AMT, U WILL get screwed, if you're a professional pilot!

When our president and Congress voted in "Tax Cuts" several years ago, they knew they were pulling the wool over our eyes. Why? Because they knew that the AMT would start bringing in HUGE money for the Feds in the coming years, and the cuts in the Income Tax wouldn't be relevant to the Feds ever-increasing need for more money.

2013 is the year that AMT is scheduled to actually bring in MORE revenue than the regular Income Tax. In other words, the Federal gov't would get more revenue by deleting ALL Income Taxes than they would be doing away with the AMT.

If you're not already paying AMT, get out the lube!

The AMT does NOT allow for many common deductions, including Property Tax, Personal and Dependent Exemptions, State Income Tax, Sales Tax, and even the Standard Deduction, if you don't itemize.

If you DO itemize, these deductions are some of the ones lost: Unreimbursed Business Expenses, Investment Expenses, some Medical and Dental expenses, etc., etc. About the only deductions that work for AMT are charitable contributions. And, if you own a business on the side, you WILL need a tax accountant to figure it out, it's so complicated.

If your AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) is over about $45K, the IRS Form 6251 and the 10 Pages of Instructions HAVE to be completed to even FIND OUT if you have to pay the AMT! If you DON'T complete this form, and owe AMT, the IRS will make you pay the AMT taxes you owed and a penalty because you didn't pay them in the first place!

General Info:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...800184_pf.html

More Technical Info:
http://www.smartmoney.com/tax/filing....cfm?story=amt

Very User Friendly Info from AOL-Explaination and Help With Calculating AMT:
http://money.aol.com/tax/article/ban...23143409990001

IRS:
Description:
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc556.html
The 2 Page Form:
http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f6251.pdf
The 10 Pages of Instructions:
http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i6251.pdf

There are some great solutions-Here are My Favorite Three, in preferential order:
1-Get rid of the Income Tax completely and switch to a Federal Sales Tax (or a VAT-Value Added Tax)
2-Create a "simplified" Income Tax, where you take ALL the money you receive in a year, from ALL sources, and pay taxes on that amount with NO deductions or exemptions
3-Create a Flat Tax, with one tax rate for everyone, where you take ALL the money you receive in a year, from ALL sources, and pay taxes on that amount with NO deductions or exemptions

What Can YOU DO to Help Change our Tax System, so Everyone Pays their Fair Share???
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

http://www.freedomworks.org/informed...hp?issue_it=17


God Bless!

cliff
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Led Zep

Are you working with a good CPA/financial advisor? I'm not bragging, but I made more than $150K and had a refund.

I am a HUGE fan of dumping the income tax completely and instituting the Federal Sales Tax (VAT) for a number of reasons. Among them: you get ALL of the money you earn, it stimulates the economy, creates a larger tax base (i.e., more taxpayers as opposed to just more taxes), and it is very fair.

atpcliff

Hi!

If we have a Value Added Tax (VAT), which I STRONGLY prefer over a Sales Tax, that would solve a lot of problems.

First, I would eliminate the sales tax on clothes, food, and medicine, so poor people could afford to live. Everything else would have a VAT (or Sales Tax).
Positive Results:
If you had criminal income, you WOULD pay tax when you bought stuff.
If you had cash income (illegal aliens, etc.), you WOULD pay tax when you bought stuff.
If you had legal money, that you illegally kept from the IRS, you WOULD pay tax when you bought stuff.
If you bought a LOT of stuff, you'd pay a LOT of tax.
If you bought EXPENSIVE stuff, you'd pay a LOT of tax.
If you SAVED most of your money, you wouldn't pay much tax.
If you didn't make very much, you wouldn't pay very much tax.
If you bought a Bizjet, you'd pay a LOT of tax.
People would REALIZE how much tax they were paying, because they'd see it on the price tag/receipt.

If you wanted to, you could also get rid of the Medicare and Social Security Taxes, and fold them into the VAT/Sales Tax also, making our tax monies more transparent, and encouraging more people to save money.

cliff
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viperdriver

Barter would be a problem

MalteseX

I got hammered by AMT not only this year, but also the last 2 years.
Really hammered by it this year.

Found out during IRS audit that THEY do/did not understand all the workings of AMT. All departments were wrong in their interpretations of my return. Does not inspire confidence