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Old 07-05-2009, 07:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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also, what are your times? (If you plan on flying it, better be sure you can get insurance with you as pilot)

I fly a couple Navajo Cheiftains (Panther conversions) and would be willing to answer any questions on them.

I have been told by many to avoid the P-Navajos.
Good point! I need to check to see if I can even get insured. By time I get this put together my times will be aprox. as follows, you folks let me know what you think.

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Where would you recomend taking a navajo or cheyene course, Flight Safety or something similar?
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Old 07-05-2009, 07:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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JSDL -

If you haven't already, give AOPA Ownership Services a call. They can probably give you some good resources as far as the research and logistics with aircraft ownership.
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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As for training kinda depends on what you want to spend and how much you want to learn.

SimCom does a good job with their Navajo initial, but costs around 5500.00

RTC will do it for around 2000.00 but wasn't quite as good for their initial (IMO) I'm anm not flaming them, as I have gone their for recurrent the last 3 years because its cheaper and quicker.

You should have any trouble getting insured either.
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Always determine the mission prior to selecting an aircraft. Useful load, typical flight profile, altitude requirements, etc... Then, select an aircraft that will satisfy 85-95% of your missions very well. You have to determine the problem before applying a solution. I fly a Navajo 325 CR with 350 h.p. Panther conversion. Great plane. Relatively fast. Narrow cg envelope and sucking on O2 if you have to go high. Great in the southeast within about 600 n.m. from home. Not so much if you have to fly high and go much further.
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Old 07-13-2009, 06:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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As for training kinda depends on what you want to spend and how much you want to learn.

SimCom does a good job with their Navajo initial, but costs around 5500.00

RTC will do it for around 2000.00 but wasn't quite as good for their initial (IMO) I'm anm not flaming them, as I have gone their for recurrent the last 3 years because its cheaper and quicker.

You should have any trouble getting insured either.


Who is RTC?

I got some info from Simcom. $5040 for the Navajo and $7400 for the Cheyene.

Does anyone know anything about Flight Safety's program and pricing?
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What's the maintenence like on PT6 engines? TBO's and or hot sections?
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:00 AM   #17 (permalink)
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What's the maintenence like on PT6 engines? TBO's and or hot sections?
Worst case is a 1500 hot, 3000hr TBO. That's on the TBM850, but I'm know it's about one of the worst ones because it's a "new" engine and they haven't gotten it extended yet due to low-time airframes. Once they start getting some better hours on the fleet that should go up.

Mx isn't that big of a deal. If there is something wrong, it's usually a warrenty issue from what I've seen come through our shop. We'll occasionally(once a year) have a bad bearing or seal, but that's not the norm.
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RTC= Recurrent Training Center, they are in Central IL.

Nice people, good place to go and make the insurance happy. I would recommend Simcom for the initial though. (But at almost 5x the cost, I would expect it to bed better or i would be really ****ed)
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