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Old 12-17-2010, 06:36 PM
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Florida Institute of Technology - Office of the Registrar
-Click on the "Flight Costs" tab-

Funny...

M.T.S.U.:
-Private - MEI: $45,000

F.I.T.:
-Private - Comm ME (No single): $48,140

* FIT NOTE: *
AVF 1001 = Private
AVF 1002 = "Flight 2" = Commercial 141 req'd time building
AVF 2001 = Instrument
AVF 2012 = Commercial Multi

For the same little green licenses, MTSU's winning so far!

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Old 12-17-2010, 06:54 PM
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As for advice, teaching is the way to go. As a CFI, you can actually STOP paying for your experience AND you will be amazed at how much you will learn from the experiences (and mistakes) of others that you fly with. Once you have your CFI, keep going and crank out your CFII and MEI too. You never know what will come along down the road and if one day you get offered to do three people's initial private licenses in a seminole somehow, I am sure you'd be quite annoyed if you couldn't do it because u didn't go for your MEI way back when. Trust me, I know! Get your CFII and MEI asap as well!

As for finding work as a CFI, the biggest thing is get out there and meet people and be what we all love being, an airport bum! Once u have ur CFI, you are rather valuable to pilots because they need BFR's checkouts, etc from u so the best thing u can do is meet people. Apply for any CFI job you can find and if that doesn't work, then hang out at local FBO's and shoot the breeze with the pilots that pass through. Being an airport bum and telling flying stories and pilot jokes to whom ever will listen really shows fellow sky-lovers just how much you love flying and you'd be surprised how often a casual "Hey! Nice Plane! She's a real beauty!" can turn into 3 or 4 BFR's, IPC's and countless other dual (and fun) flights!
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Originally Posted by dlb4a View Post
Total………………………...168
My initial CFI checkride is Dec. 21, 2010 (next Tuesday).
I'm sure you a cool guy and probably a great pilot - however, and this isn't anything personal, it's just that a pilot with 168TT has no business being a CFI.

There is a lot to learn out there!
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Old 12-18-2010, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dlb4a View Post
I am another low time guy looking for some opportunities to build time. I am 168TT Commercial Multi - Instrument. I have an initial CFI checkride on Dec. 21.

Help would be greatly appreciated.
168hr flight instructor!?!?!?! Thats crazy! I have more time sitting on the crapper on an ATR.
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:03 AM
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If you can pass the CFI checkride at 168 hours, more power to you. However, good luck getting hired as a CFI outside of your school. As you can see, many on here were not aware you could be a CFI with that little time, so most employers will just throw your resume aside thinking it is a joke.
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:07 AM
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Walking a student through a chandelle or a practice approach is not very hard. It's the accrued wisdom, knowledge, study, experience, improvement, efficiency, style, personal growth, insight, setbacks, reverses, successes, scares, joys, challenges, and overall personal evolution that combine to make a mature aviator. Most people can regurgitate a set of maneuvers long enough to pass the checkride. But it is the gradual building of experience and knowledge over time that no flight training curriculum can give. I had a high pass rate for my training career and I thought it was easy flying airplanes. But this was a dangerous illusion created from having only faced simulated tests where everything was provided to pass. As life went on and I was exposed to real, non-simulated challenges I realized how shallow my world of flight training was. Flight training is no more than a start, and that's all it can be. Continued, meaningful improvement is only possible through continued study and effort, a process that takes time and never stops with the passing of a checkride.
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well said Cub. Do yourself a favor and come split some time in a duchess with me next door. Better airplane than the Seminole and alot less expensive.
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Old 12-18-2010, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver View Post
Walking a student through a chandelle or a practice approach is not very hard. It's the accrued wisdom, knowledge, study, experience, improvement, efficiency, style, personal growth, insight, setbacks, reverses, successes, scares, joys, challenges, and overall personal evolution that combine to make a mature aviator. Most people can regurgitate a set of maneuvers long enough to pass the checkride. But it is the gradual building of experience and knowledge over time that no flight training curriculum can give. I had a high pass rate for my training career and I thought it was easy flying airplanes. But this was a dangerous illusion created from having only faced simulated tests where everything was provided to pass. As life went on and I was exposed to real, non-simulated challenges I realized how shallow my world of flight training was. Flight training is no more than a start, and that's all it can be. Continued, meaningful improvement is only possible through continued study and effort, a process that takes time and never stops with the passing of a checkride.
Absolutely. However, this forum is partly to blame for encouraging people to instruct to build time who have no interest in teaching people how to fly. I know I have told many people that instructing is the best way to get your time. I really like to instruct and I forget that many people don't when I give that advice. It is sad, but I cannot think of any other way for pilots to realistically build time. The real crime is the first few students that don't realize that not all instructors are equal.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DayTripper12 View Post
168hr flight instructor!?!?!?! Thats crazy! I have more time sitting on the crapper on an ATR.
Almost every instructor at Riddle starts with those times....

I am in the same position as the OP. Which is why I'm going into the Reserves
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dlb4a View Post
Here is the breakdown from my resume.

Total………………………...168
Diamond Star 20…………..1.0 (spin training for CFI)
Pilot in Command…….…67
Diamond Star 40……….121.8
Single Engine…………….154.8
Piper Arrow 28R…………..26.8
Piper Seminole 44………..13.2
Multi Engine……………….13.2


(logbook has 33.8 sim hours)

At Middle Tennessee State University the flight school's training is predominately all proficiency based. If one can get into the aircraft and show that they can handle the regs's requirements then they can advanced; however we do have an intensive syllabus which includes: Private Pilot Cert, Instru Rating, Comm. Cert, Multi, CFI, CFII, MEI, High Performance, and Tail Wheel.

I may not have a load of experience flying airplanes but I am certain I can handle a greater difficultly level of flying than you gentlemen give me credit for. My initial CFI checkride is Dec. 21, 2010 (next Tuesday).

Again, If anyone has helpful or considerate information to pass along, I would greatly appreciate it.

http://www.mtsu.edu/aerospace (For those who need HARD facts.)
you might just want to check that bravado and arrogance at the door, especially if you are looking for a bit of help here.
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