Learjet FO

I don't mention adult membership though. It's great for communicating to an interview board that you were into aviation since childhood! ...and not smoking dope. They eat that right up! I also let them know how I pushed carts and worked the fryer all summer and after school in HS to solo and get my ppl. No dates no car. After all girls hate guys trying to achieve something.

Cruz5350

You need to quit worrying about others and more yourself. You're the last one that should be talking about being a professional pilot.

skylanejockey

All this guy does is troll the forum talking crap. He's just mad cause nobody will hire him, with that attitude I can't blame them.

ClarenceOver

Quite the opposite. And you should be smart enough to know that i am not going to listen to you. Might as well save your breath.

ClarenceOver

3 conditional offers is not "nobody will hire me buttercup" try again

block30

I would NOT put CAP down as a job. I don't see the harm in putting CAP down under volunteer experience, though. You should be proud of your accomplishments.

From my experience the "Silver Hair Patrol" has a lot of truth to it, and not for lack of interest in the younger crowd. I met one squadron commander who specifically said he ran out the 18-30 crowd, because "they're all trouble makers." This is a true story.

The CG Aux relies on *the members* to provide the boats and airplanes. Yes, there is reimbursement for fuel and some dollars towards engine overhaul on missions. BUT- there is no tooling around on tax subsidized dollars like CAP. Sorry, but this is absolutely true. If a CG Aux member wants to go fly their own plane or drive their own boat, its their prerogative and their money. I think this is one of the biggest reasons for a cultural difference in the two organizations. If the CG AUX provided boats and aircraft in the manner CAP did, I think the situation would be similar.

I'm going to PM you if you don't mind.

Yep, if you are in the 18-45ish crowd with no squadron connections, you are likely considered an outsider, especially if you want to fly. Then you can just screw off or get the stink eye for impeding on the "club" aircraft.


Yes, I was extremely disappointed in our performance, and told my wife, if I ever go missing, call my buddies to search, you can't count on the CAP.

I do apologize for my negativeness, but it is not directed at the original poster.
Since this came up, I have a hard time remaining silent. There are definitely some good people and some good things about CAP, but the potential for going off track is all too prevalent. Seeing this first hand makes me angry as a person, and as a taxpayer. Frankly the taxpayer ought to know what is going on there. I believe Senator McCain has tried to cut finding to the CAP for the reasons other posters have mentioned above.

block30

Yeah, not my exact story, obviously, but close enough. I think this is all well said.

AZFlyer

I'm not as involved with CAP as I once was, but my experience here in the PHX area is drastically different from the tales of woe described in this thread.

Don't know if AZ is better than most about it, but people here are encouraged and invited to get involved with the airplane as an aircrew member and I've never witnessed nor heard of anyone being shut out of flying by people here. There are numerous training opportunities to get checked out in G1000 aircraft, mountain flying, weather classes, etc. There definitely are some hurdles to clear to get the initial check out in the airplane and trained on the various tasks that you could be involved with as a pilot, and depending on the membership around you, you may have to work harder than you should to get the answers on what you need to next. I don't like that aspect of it. And the paper work, for sure. Makes my head spin sometimes.

I've probably flown close to 100 hours in CAP aircraft in a fairly short time-span (2-3 years), taken care of BFRs, IPCs, logged x-ctry, found actual missing people and airplanes, been the 'target' of fighter intercepts, etc. Fun enough stuff. Unless you have the cash to go out and fly the airplane on your own/split with another member or two, it is tough to get a lot of time building in just from a financial standpoint, but with that said, it is still a lot cheaper on your dime through CAP than most local FBOs/Clubs...once you're checked out in the plane. ;-)

Most of the people I encountered are all upstanding folks, many with helpful professional/military backgrounds, and most importantly, don't take themselves too seriously. That is the key. I've also seen the complete goobers that get made fun of so much, and they are embarrassing for sure, but that seems to be more the exception to the typical member around here. But again, my only experience with CAP has been in the PHX area, so I can't say if AZ CAP is the exception to the stereotype or what. I just don't know.

As for resumes, I would agree with those that say that if you're going to include it on your resume, only put under a 'civic involvement/volunteer' section. I don't really have much involvement in any other civic/volunteer activities, so that is where it goes on mine if it would be of any relevance to the job being applied for.

Cruz5350

That's funny I've got half a dozen PM's from you about how to get hired with multiple checkride busts. I wouldn't call getting offers in today's environment any type of accomplishment.

Learjet FO

I keep hearing so much about the interview and the offer. You don't have the job until you pass the check ride. Anybody with the mins who can move /commute can get an offer these days. The initial training is the real interview.