I was recently picked up by the Air Force Reserves to fly heavies. I was DQ'ed for a medical reason at my FC1. I can technically get a wavier, but was told they will not give me one. I am wondering if the ANG has a different process then the reserves? Also, do other branches have different standards?
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Still have to pass an FC1 for the ANG so I don't think that will help. Not sure about the standards for other branches. I have my FC1 in a month, would you be willing to share why you DQ'd?
I was recently picked up by the Air Force Reserves to fly heavies. I was DQ'ed for a medical reason at my FC1. I can technically get a wavier, but was told they will not give me one. I am wondering if the ANG has a different process then the reserves? Also, do other branches have different standards?
Question here could be 'who is they'?
Whomever is making that decision at the AF Reserve level might very likely be different than who might make that decision for the ANG.
Other services - yes standards can be different and the availoanbility of waivers can be very different (based on the needs of the service).
It depends at what level your FC1 was denied. Mine was denied at the Air Force Surgeon General level due to the type of condition that they diagnosed me with. At that level, I was would have needed an exception to policy. There is an official waiver guide that the Air Force has, and it depends on what the disqualifying condition is. This is the most recent version that I could find... http://aviationmedicine.com/resource...uide%20PDF.pdf
Your problem is that the AF, regardless of specific command, doesn't usually offer waivers for FC1 for UPT entry. Sponsoring candidates, I fought a couple of these to no avail. The policy, with very rare exceptions, is no waivers. After being "winged" that's when that waiver policy document comes in. An exception might be for prior service members injured in the line of duty.
All UPT entry physicals are reviewed by the AF Surgeon General's office, no more shenanigans at the ARC level. That changed about 12 years ago. I don't think you can even take an entry FC1 at a ANG/Reseve clinic anymore.
Depending on why you were DQ'd, an ANG unit may be more willing to get you the waiver. Guard, AFR and AF still have to go by the waiver guide, so if it isn't waiverable according to that, then there is no way. I had a similar thing happen to me. I couldn't get a LASIK waiver through a reserve unit, but a friend of mine that went to the same surgeon and similar pre-op paperwork just got a LASIK waiver to a guard unit.
Depending on why you were DQ'd, an ANG unit may be more willing to get you the waiver. Guard, AFR and AF still have to go by the waiver guide, so if it isn't waiverable according to that, then there is no way. I had a similar thing happen to me. I couldn't get a LASIK waiver through a reserve unit, but a friend of mine that went to the same surgeon and similar pre-op paperwork just got a LASIK waiver to a guard unit.
It depends at what level your FC1 was denied. Mine was denied at the Air Force Surgeon General level due to the type of condition that they diagnosed me with. At that level, I was would have needed an exception to policy. There is an official waiver guide that the Air Force has, and it depends on what the disqualifying condition is. This is the most recent version that I could find... http://aviationmedicine.com/resource...uide%20PDF.pdf
If your condition is listed in this waiver guide is there a chance to still get in? I had a medical DQ for a broken arm but I see nothing in there that would help/harm me....
I can technically get a wavier, but was told they will not give me one.
Say reason? If there is a waiver for your condition then the AF has seen fit that it's not that big of a deal. So there is no reason they should not get you the waiver. Exactly who said they wouldn't give you a waiver? If it's a pilot in your leadership chain saying they won't do a waiver. It's time to try for another base, you don't want to wor for someone like that anyway.
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Your problem is that the AF, regardless of specific command, doesn't usually offer waivers for FC1 for UPT entry. Sponsoring candidates, I fought a couple of these to no avail. The policy, with very rare exceptions, is no waivers. After being "winged" that's when that waiver policy document comes in. An exception might be for prior service members injured in the line of duty.
Really? ANG or AFRC? Heck I had to get two waivers to get my FC-1 to go to UPT. Well, actually they figured out late In the waiver process that I only needed one. But they didn't even hesitate to put me in for two. A good friend (fellow ANG guy) of mine has a waiver for depth perception... Heck half the guys we've sent to pilot training in the last 5ish years, have needed a waiver. Where there is a will there is a way.
I would agree that ETPs are very rare. But waivers are definitely not a rarity IMO.
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