Tpinks

Anyone ever heard of them or worked there? I got an email from them and wanted to find some info on them before I responded but I couldn't find much.

This appears to be there website as I found the name of who emailed me on the aircraft for sale page.

jrav8er

I just got the email today from Windsor also. I too cannot find much information about them. I am in Orlando. Let's stay in touch and compare notes.

Tpinks

I ended up calling them and it did not sound too bad of an offer. He did say the SkyFlight website is down for maintenance which would explain why the website doesn't look right or real for that matter, but he did say there were two other companies involved.

They do part 135 and 91 flying.

No training contract, but you do pay for your own initial type rating. The training price seemed a little high based off of what figures I could find from 2006 on type ratings, I just do not talk they could have inflated that much, but they are repaid over a three year period at least.

jrav8er

I spoke with him as well. So we finance our own training and give him a loan that he pays us back in 3 years. It's a training contract. If you don't stay 3 years you don't get the rest of what he owes you. $28,000 for a Lear SIC type signoff, IE no checkride. and no ATP, $84,000 for the E135/145 SIC no ATP, He holds the ATP over your head. he said after training at CAE he signs us off for SIC type endorsement. He will work a deal for the ATP, as in he will evaluate and if he thinks we will pass the checkride then he will let us take the ATP. I am sure at a cost or his answer will always be NO.

I can get a Boeing 737 ATP and Type for $9,000. And an E170/190/Lineage Type and ATP for $31,000 It may be legit and and he may be compliant wih the FAA and pays you your salary, but there are way to many things in his favor if the company goes tits up we are SOL. In this day and age I'll just go to a regional for 20k for the free training and a small paycheck for a type rating and jet time.
Now without being able to see a brick and moatar operation and the aircraft it's hard to Wire transfer that kind of money over to his wife as she handles all the money.

rdneckpilot

From what you guys are saying I would run away. Sounds like a royal screwing in the making to me.

Av8er1550

^Agreed. It sounds a bit like a scam to pay for your own type rating with some loan and not knowing if you will get your ATP out of it for sure. And like you said, if the company goes belly up then so do you.

SuperAerobat

I literally just got off the phone with Skyflite for a Lear 31A offer. The deal sounds too good to be true until he said that we had to pay for training. Most of us are turboprop pilots or flight instructors looking for our first jet gig... There's no way we have 28K lying around. I wouldn't even consider paying for a type when a regional airline will put me on something bigger for free (albeit, for lower pay initially). Tread carefully dudes!

captcurt

Got another email from winsor brown after I told him that I couldn't afford the 28k he was asking. He then asked what i could afford.

prwest

Tell him you can afford about Tree Fiddy

say again

I'd tell him $0. You want me to work for you, then you put the money in to train me. Don't fall for this 3 year loan payback crap.