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Old 05-19-2015, 04:24 PM
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Just read an interesting article in P&P. CAE will "give" you a type rating in your plane of choice. Check out the article for more details. You need to have your CMI and I think 300 hours. You can get an ATP as well if you have the prerequisites completed. I don't know anything beyond what was written, but it looks like a good deal and a hellofva leg up.
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With out knowing anything else, this would be my advise for someone wanting to make it corporate.
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I'm sure there's no catch.
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From that link:
Depending on the aircraft you'd like, after 80 sessions or more, you're graduated to student status in what's called an "educational grant," at which point CAE will send you through their entire program from intro to type rating free of charge. Again, this is all aircraft specific.

If your goal is to be typed in a Cessna Citation, that will require 80 sessions. If you'd like a mid-sized cabin type rating, you're looking at 200 sessions, though you don't have to perform those in the aircraft you're choosing. For example, you could perform all 200 of your sessions in one of the King Air simulators and still request a Gulfstream IV type rating.
Seems like a cool concept, but you'd have to live pretty close to one of their facilities to be there for that many sessions.
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse View Post
I'm sure there's no catch.
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Hey CE,
I guess the "catch" is you have to work like a dog for no pay. Because, after all, nothing in this life is free.
I go to FSI every 6 months (for 20+ years) and they have some pretty sharp right seat guys (besides a great operation to begin with). Usually they have less than 1000 hours which makes it difficult for them to get hired outside FSI. What I liKe about this CAE program is, when your done, your done. No strings attached. But I guess you could stay..
I hope it is still going on when I retire.
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Its a great program. I had a sharp right seater in the 650 and he was also a sim partner to another one of our guys a little later. I heard he got his type and was hired on with a 91 operator in the DFW area. They know the systems cold, they have flown with your crews, they have a huge advantage over non experienced people. Yeah theres a catch, its that a little dedication goes a long way!
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I did the program at cae. It's a great program and you get experience and contacts you can't buy. The way it works is you get assigned an airplane (I was in the lear) they put you through initial and you take a ride with an instructor at the end, you work 80 sim sessions for free and after you complete the the 80 sessions they put you through training on the equipment of your choice (except the global and g650/550). The big thing throughout the process is the connections you make. I have multiple friends who were offered gigs with the people you right seat for. I did it on my free time and I was not worked like a slave. They ask if if you want to work, you can say yes or no that's it. Great experience, I learned a ton, and everyone I dealt with was awesome.
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Old 05-26-2015, 04:47 AM
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I did the program at cae. It's a great program and you get experience and contacts you can't buy. The way it works is you get assigned an airplane (I was in the lear) they put you through initial and you take a ride with an instructor at the end, you work 80 sim sessions for free and after you complete the the 80 sessions they put you through training on the equipment of your choice (except the global and g650/550). The big thing throughout the process is the connections you make. I have multiple friends who were offered gigs with the people you right seat for. I did it on my free time and I was not worked like a slave. They ask if if you want to work, you can say yes or no that's it. Great experience, I learned a ton, and everyone I dealt with was awesome.
How long did it take? Did you already live near the facility?
Do you know if you can do it for more than 1 type?
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Hey CE,
I guess the "catch" is you have to work like a dog for no pay. Because, after all, nothing in this life is free.
I go to FSI every 6 months (for 20+ years) and they have some pretty sharp right seat guys (besides a great operation to begin with). Usually they have less than 1000 hours which makes it difficult for them to get hired outside FSI. What I liKe about this CAE program is, when your done, your done. No strings attached. But I guess you could stay..
I hope it is still going on when I retire.
Figured as much.
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This is interesting, thanks for posting. I have heard though, that you need a type and experience in an actual aircraft before getting a type from a sim. It doesn't sound like that is the case with the author. He says before he had just an MEI, but seemed to get the CE-500 type.

I will look more into this.

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Old 06-09-2015, 12:58 PM
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Your right. The author didn't mention he had a previous type. I did my first type all in the sim but I did have actual time in the plane as sic prior.
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