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I've been reading through many of these forums on pilots with bad driving records. The airlines seem not to want a pilot with a bad driving record. So here's my question. What effect will this have on me getting hired by airline. Will I still be able to get a job instructing ? or with a part 91 operation ? Should I move on to another career choice ? I think that I am at a critical point where I need to decide if this is something I should continue to pursue as a career, especially if no one will hire me cause of my driving record. I am 22. Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated.

List of Violations:
1 Speeding -Nov. 2006 135 $ Florida Volusia County
2 Speeding- May. 2007 135$ Florida Suwanee County
3 Following To Close -May. 2007 185$ Louisiana, New Orleans
4 Seat Belt -July 2008 50$ District of Columbia (yep, at our nation's capital)
5 Speeding -Oct 2008 70$ Louisiana, New Orleans(photo enforcement)
6 Red Light -Nov 2008 115$ Louisiana, New Orleans (photo enforcement)

Needless to say five of these could have been avoided by slowing down. I have made a extremely conscious effort to drive only the speed limit. I get teased by my brother who now says, "I drive like a old lady." Doesn't help my cause very much.

I'm currently working on my Multi-Engine Commercial License. I already have a ASEL plus Instrument Rating. I have 182.2 TT. I plan to get CFII and MEI. So I'm still a long way away from the point where I would start applying for jobs.

I've really learned my lesson and I really make sure I follow all of the laws, I never speed anymore it just to expensive. I even have my Fiancee' drive me around to preclude the risk of me getting another citation. I walk and ride a bike now, but I heard you can also gt tickets for improperly riding a bicycle( would that effect it ?)
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I don't know about the airlines, but that would be enough for us to pass on.
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Step One: Stop breaking the law
Step Two: Keep flying if you want
Step Three: wait five years until interviewing with an airline

Most airlines would ask, "how many moving violations in the last five years?"

I've never been asked about it for CFI or corporate jobs, but every job is different so find out.

If you can't handle a car properly, why should they trust you with a plane? That is their thinking with the traffic violations.

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dude 6 moving is alot- if you come clean, tell them what happen the circumstances, there might be a chance youll get hire. heck I know a few pilots out there with DUI. but if they had to pick you vs someone else that didnt have the violations well you get the point.. g'luck
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You are an idiot for not getting a lawyer and paying to have them turned into non-moving violations. I used to get tickets all the time in my teenage years, and not one of them went on my record.
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Step One: Stop breaking the law
Step Two: Keep flying if you want
Step Three: wait five years until interviewing with an airline

Most airlines would ask, "how many moving violations in the last five years?"

I've never been asked about it for CFI or corporate jobs, but every job is different so find out.

If you can't handle a car properly, why should they trust you with a plane? That is their thinking with the traffic violations.

Good luck.
Nolakh86,
I posted a response in the other thread.
As far as your five year history goes, the reality is this:
Most airlines ask if you have ever had a moving violation. There is no statute of limitations on the application. It is up to you whether you want to list them all or not.
Then, after you are hired (and you've quit your previous job), your new company runs a complete background check and finds that you have not been completely honest with them.
I'm not saying that they will always be able to uncover your driving history, but do you really want to take the chance? Certainly if your state keeps records for longer than five years, a quick check will uncover your violations.
That walk out of ground school would probably be a long one.
But what do I know? Lori will give you some better advise.
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[quote=Ottopilot;614213], but every job is different so find out.
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Like I said.
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A little similar to mine, but I've had mine spread over the years and don't have seatbelt or red light on my record. Applying to airlines, DL - what to include?

Companies offering Part 91/CFI jobs don't care about traffic violations. None of the flight schools that I have worked for have asked me about my driving record.

What state are you in? Pull a history of your DL record and see what's on it. Why didn't you go to traffic school and have it taken off your record?
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So here's my question. What effect will this have on me getting hired by airline.

List of Violations:
1 Speeding -Nov. 2006 135 $ Florida Volusia County
2 Speeding- May. 2007 135$ Florida Suwanee County
3 Following To Close -May. 2007 185$ Louisiana, New Orleans
4 Seat Belt -July 2008 50$ District of Columbia (yep, at our nation's capital)
5 Speeding -Oct 2008 70$ Louisiana, New Orleans(photo enforcement)
6 Red Light -Nov 2008 115$ Louisiana, New Orleans (photo enforcement)
Having been a part of the interview process for a large Part 121 carrier, this type of driving record is going to get you put into the "Not unless we're REALLY desperate pile".

I would s-l-o-w down, learn to accept the responsibility of a drivers license and wait before I applied anywhere. At some carriers, United for example,they used to check your driving record from the date you got a license...not just the past five years. It may have changed but the advice to get a lawyer and see what, if anything, can be done isn't bad advice. There are too many job applicants in the market today to take a chance on someone with 6 moving violations in two years.

Nothing personal....just the truth.

G'Luck and slow down Mate
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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What State is your DL in?
A lot of States do not share traffic ticket info with each other.
Did you pay a lawyer to get out of the tickets?
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