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Old 09-25-2008, 05:17 PM   #3791 (permalink)
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How long after you applied did you get your interview call?
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:53 PM   #3792 (permalink)
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Remember its not just hours. I know people still getting hired close to the published mins if not a little under. I think a lot is depending on your background and your personality. They are taking and turning away people with 121 time and the same with flight instructors at the published mins. So who know what competitive is....
If they are considering factors other than flight times and 121 experience, then what are those things? Why is everyone who gets shot down getting letters that state that Mesaba has "applicants with greater qualifications?" What does that mean when people with 121 experience get that letter? How can a CFI with less than published mins earn an interview with his personality? I have 50% more than published mins, as well as ten years of management experience and I didn't get called. Something on the resume has to win an interview before they even get a real peek at your personality. Sure, personality might win you a job, but qualifications win you an interview - I think. A post above said that everyone he interviewed with had 121 experience????
What should those of us who got that letter do? Should we re-apply after we have ATP mins? From posts above it is clear that many current FOs at Mesaba were hired with far less than what I have now, so what earns a phone call? I know times are different than they were last year, but not if you are correct in saying that they might hire flight instructors at published mins or under!
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:28 PM   #3793 (permalink)
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If they are considering factors other than flight times and 121 experience, then what are those things? Why is everyone who gets shot down getting letters that state that Mesaba has "applicants with greater qualifications?" What does that mean when people with 121 experience get that letter? How can a CFI with less than published mins earn an interview with his personality? I have 50% more than published mins, as well as ten years of management experience and I didn't get called. Something on the resume has to win an interview before they even get a real peek at your personality. Sure, personality might win you a job, but qualifications win you an interview - I think. A post above said that everyone he interviewed with had 121 experience????
What should those of us who got that letter do? Should we re-apply after we have ATP mins? From posts above it is clear that many current FOs at Mesaba were hired with far less than what I have now, so what earns a phone call? I know times are different than they were last year, but not if you are correct in saying that they might hire flight instructors at published mins or under!

I could be wrong but some of you guys (furlughed 121) want the jet and may come off cockey, I dont know the magic number of getting the job. Have a good attitude and see what happens.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:13 PM   #3794 (permalink)
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I could be wrong but some of you guys (furlughed 121) want the jet and may come off cockey, I dont know the magic number of getting the job. Have a good attitude and see what happens.
What???? He is talking about an interview. I highly doubt that anyone will put in their cover letter/resume that they require either jet over the Saab.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:24 PM   #3795 (permalink)
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I could be wrong but some of you guys (furlughed 121) want the jet and may come off cockey, I dont know the magic number of getting the job. Have a good attitude and see what happens.
I hope my post did not give you the impression that I am one of the guys that you are referring to in your post. I am not furloughed (I am a career changer with just over 900hrs and ZERO 121 experience), I am not cocky (I am quite ready to admit my faults and be teachable). I also would not be picky at all about aircraft assignment.
My post simply reflects my curiosity while I verbally think through the theories on this post.
SO - Can someone please banter with my questions three spots above?
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:34 PM   #3796 (permalink)
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proskuneho i dont think anybody knows why they send out the letters to some and not others.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:45 PM   #3797 (permalink)
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If they are considering factors other than flight times and 121 experience, then what are those things? Why is everyone who gets shot down getting letters that state that Mesaba has "applicants with greater qualifications?" What does that mean when people with 121 experience get that letter? How can a CFI with less than published mins earn an interview with his personality? I have 50% more than published mins, as well as ten years of management experience and I didn't get called. Something on the resume has to win an interview before they even get a real peek at your personality. Sure, personality might win you a job, but qualifications win you an interview - I think. A post above said that everyone he interviewed with had 121 experience????
What should those of us who got that letter do? Should we re-apply after we have ATP mins? From posts above it is clear that many current FOs at Mesaba were hired with far less than what I have now, so what earns a phone call? I know times are different than they were last year, but not if you are correct in saying that they might hire flight instructors at published mins or under!
I agree that "something on the resume has to win an interview before they even get a real peek at your personality." It's the same with any job.

While your experience might be perfect for the job, perhaps your resume (layout) needs improvement? I don't know exactly. Yes, times are different from last year. I'm just offering a possibility, so don't shoot me down. I've seen some poor resumes.
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I agree that "something on the resume has to win an interview before they even get a real peek at your personality." It's the same with any job.

While your experience might be perfect for the job, perhaps your resume (layout) needs improvement? I don't know exactly. Yes, times are different from last year. I'm just offering a possibility, so don't shoot me down. I've seen some poor resumes.
I agree. The vast majority of resumes I've seen are extremely unappealing. Keep them well-organized and clean. When uploading resumes, try to stick to PDFs. It prevents loss of layout/style due to fonts or software.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:42 PM   #3799 (permalink)
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They hired a bunch of guys with lower times when they were having trouble finding qualified applicants, now that many pilots with former 121 experience are on the street they can pick those that have PROVEN they can get through 121 training. You are not as qualified with the current industry situation (many guys with turbine time on the street), its all timing and you are on the back side of the hiring wave. You might need to get 1,000 hrs multiengine to get an interview. Some people will get interviews with 500 hrs and some will have to build thousands, its all about timing....
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:56 PM   #3800 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the great feedback guys. If anyone else wants to chime in, please do so. I am quite eager to improve whatever I need to improve. My resume worked for management jobs, but much of that info might be irrelevant now...
Mesaba seems like a great company. I'll revamp my resume, get some consultation, and re-apply. Thanks.
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