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Old 10-16-2008, 10:42 AM   #4251 (permalink)
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Congrats arondeau and spank. Seems like we're all in the same class...looking forward to meeting you both soon. It feels like forever!
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:44 AM   #4252 (permalink)
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Anyone have any websites I can research more on cities/locations(e.g. MEM, DTW?) I'm guessing I won't be based at my choice base, MSP...and should probably start thinking of alternatives and QOL of the other bases because I refuse to commute.
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:02 AM   #4253 (permalink)
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Try city-data.com for general info. DTW is cheaper, MEM is warmer. The flying seems to be better out of DTW though, and I'll let someone else tell you about the "fishbowl" in MEM...

As for all the questions about "how fast can I upgrade" the most junior guy to get upgraded on the last award has been here almost a year and a half. DISCLAIMER: Results not typical, your results may vary. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA.
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:01 PM   #4254 (permalink)
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The last vacancy award had some MSP saab positions, so it's not impossible. The 900 spots if vacant will likely be filled with current 900 FOs moving bases, so those positions won't be available when you bid.

There are 24 spots in the Nov 3rd class... 8 saab and 16 900. The vacancy award will be posted internally by Oct. 27 at 5pm. At that point the dust will have settled and the open spots for new hires will be known. Check back here at that point, I'm sure someone will post what the positions are. Welcome aboard.
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:30 PM   #4255 (permalink)
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And just so everyone knows that a year and a half does not sound long but dont forget that they are in the mid 600's and we have 1200 pilots so that time will just get longer.
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:42 PM   #4256 (permalink)
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Where does this 1200 number keep coming from? Just look at a seniority list... it says 1,115. The point still remains though... upgrades are going to folks in the 600s and will likely remain "senior" because for the last year and a half many FOs have been building time and are getting close to upgrade mins. PLus, many of them who HAD upgrade mins are waiting for their year of probation to end. Unless be grow in dramatic and massive amounts, I think upgrades will normalize and not go as junior as they have in the past.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:58 PM   #4257 (permalink)
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What are the seat locks at mesaba? Specifically the following:

Initial FO seat lock
Seat Lock after your initial FO seat lock
Initial Captain upgrade Seat lock
Seat lock after initial Captain upgrade

And if you are under a current FO seat lock and you are eligible for an upgrade according to your seniority, can you get out of the FO seat lock to upgrade or do you have to ride your current FO seat lock out before the upgrade is possible?

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Old 10-16-2008, 02:29 PM   #4258 (permalink)
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What are the seat locks at mesaba? Specifically the following:

Initial FO seat lock
Seat Lock after your initial FO seat lock
Initial Captain upgrade Seat lock
Seat lock after initial Captain upgrade
FO's are not locked from upgrading when their seniority can hold a Captain position. FO's are locked for 2 or 3 years from bidding another FO's seat in another aircraft (I think 2 years).

Captains are locked for 2 years from switching into another Captains seat no matter what.

Company can relax seatlocks at their discrection as they did last summer for SAAB FO's moving to CRJ900 FO's and SAAB Capt into 900 Capt.

I suspect unless something really breaks loose after the merger, I suspect the seatlock won't be much of an issue.

I think there is a lock before the you flow up to NWA/Delta but I am not sure what that is.

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Old 10-16-2008, 03:01 PM   #4259 (permalink)
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FO's are not locked from upgrading when their seniority can hold a Captain position. FO's are locked for 2 or 3 years from bidding another FO's seat in another aircraft (I think 2 years).
And to add if you would switch FOs seats after the initial 2 FO to FO seat lock you would get another 2 year seat and that one is for everything IE no upgrade either for 2 years.
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And to add if you would switch FOs seats after the initial 2 FO to FO seat lock you would get another 2 year seat and that one is for everything IE no upgrade either for 2 years.
That being the case, then how come those 3 FOs who switched seats to CRJ9 were released from seat locks and were awarded CRJ9 CA seats on the previous vacancy award? (Not the last one but one before the last one). Next to their names it said per ALPA and Company agreement of some sort, I can't recall the exact words used there. These were FOs who elected to switch seats to come to CRJ9 as FOs and they were supposed to be seat locked for 2 years. They only sat for one year and were released from their seat locks.
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