Since I now know there is no PBS at Mesaba yet, how friendly are reserve and lineholder schedules for commuters? Days off in a row specifically? Is roughly a 4-on, 3-off or 5-on, 2-off schedule common or are there a lot of days off thrown in between 3 and 4 day trips? Is there a stark difference in pairing construction between the bases? Sorry if this has been asked before. This thread is so big it is getting impossible to search. Thanks.
What airplane are you on. If you're on the 900 or the SF3 you should be ok with commuting to reserve because you'll probably only be on reserve for a few months with the way we're hiring people for those aircraft. If you're on the 200... well you might be on reserve for a while. I'm on reserver right now and I did 10 days (the max) of airport reserve this month and wed is my only day off between last Friday and next Sunday. Next month I have one 2 on 4 off one 5 on 3 off one 5 on 2 off and one 6 on 2 off and then 3 on at the end of the month. As for commuting the day of here are the reserve periods:
P3 usually goes senior (people that can hold lines bid it because they are rarely called) ... P1 and P2 are a wash. So you'll probably end up commuting the day before and after a stretch of reserve days. Also there is a lot of sitting around in base. I've flown 3:04 this month.
What airplane are you on. If you're on the 900 or the SF3 you should be ok with commuting to reserve because you'll probably only be on reserve for a few months with the way we're hiring people for those aircraft. If you're on the 200... well you might be on reserve for a while. I'm on reserver right now and I did 10 days (the max) of airport reserve this month and wed is my only day off between last Friday and next Sunday. Next month I have one 2 on 4 off one 5 on 3 off one 5 on 2 off and one 6 on 2 off and then 3 on at the end of the month. As for commuting the day of here are the reserve periods:
P3 usually goes senior (people that can hold lines bid it because they are rarely called) ... P1 and P2 are a wash. So you'll probably end up commuting the day before and after a stretch of reserve days. Also there is a lot of sitting around in base. I've flown 3:04 this month.
Good luck.
Thanks for the info. Are you on the 200? I mean, reserve only lasting a few months on the other equipment is good news. I hope hiring stays relatively strong. Is it due to upgrades/expansion with the 900? I mean, I can't imagine too many people are leaving right now.
Is everyone sitting around that much on reserve, or is that something specific to the 200?
Yeah for sure, what day are you arriving in MSP? I'm only a 5 hour drive away so I'm still debating when to drive down.
Awesome, we'll see what happens. I'm used to the area (after hating it initially) and would not mind MSP. I made a move from NYC to this region and it was a bit tough due to how quiet it can get in the suburban settings. I'm sure DTW has ok-suburbs? If anyone has any recommendations for places to live around DTW, I'd be happy to hear them. I refuse to commute and would be looking for an apt. (Yes, I've checked craigslist. I'm looking for decent places)
For nice places check out:
Ann Arbor
Canton
Plymouth
Novi
Pretty much anything west of 275 or north of 96 for the most part. There are some crappy areas around there but I have been pretty happy with that criteria. Not too sure about south of the airport.
Since I now know there is no PBS at Mesaba yet, how friendly are reserve and lineholder schedules for commuters? Days off in a row specifically? Is roughly a 4-on, 3-off or 5-on, 2-off schedule common or are there a lot of days off thrown in between 3 and 4 day trips? Is there a stark difference in pairing construction between the bases? Sorry if this has been asked before. This thread is so big it is getting impossible to search. Thanks.
I personally wouldn't call having 2 off in between 5 day reserve periods commuter friendly, but its certainly doable, but that also depends on where you are coming from, and if FEDEX is an option for you as well (in MEM of course). Lately I have seen a few more 5 on 3 off, but each line is different.
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Yeah for sure, what day are you arriving in MSP? I'm only a 5 hour drive away so I'm still debating when to drive down.
Awesome, we'll see what happens. I'm used to the area (after hating it initially) and would not mind MSP. I made a move from NYC to this region and it was a bit tough due to how quiet it can get in the suburban settings. I'm sure DTW has ok-suburbs? If anyone has any recommendations for places to live around DTW, I'd be happy to hear them. I refuse to commute and would be looking for an apt. (Yes, I've checked craigslist. I'm looking for decent places)
I'd reccommend the near north or northwest suburbs. The drive to DTW might be slightly longer (40ish min max dep on traffic), but there is far more to do. I originally come from the "downriver" area, which lies to the east and southeast of DTW. Very close in proximity and nice communities, but not really much to do in terms of activities or nightlife. Now I live in the Troy/Royal Oak area on the north side, and there is plenty to do up there. Little bit more pricey, but you can still find nice apts in the $500-600/month range if you look around.
Ex: Troy, Royal Oak <---(very popular), Ferndale, Rochester, Birmingham, Novi, Canton.
What airplane are you on. If you're on the 900 or the SF3 you should be ok with commuting to reserve because you'll probably only be on reserve for a few months with the way we're hiring people for those aircraft. If you're on the 200... well you might be on reserve for a while. I'm on reserver right now and I did 10 days (the max) of airport reserve this month and wed is my only day off between last Friday and next Sunday. Next month I have one 2 on 4 off one 5 on 3 off one 5 on 2 off and one 6 on 2 off and then 3 on at the end of the month. As for commuting the day of here are the reserve periods:
P3 usually goes senior (people that can hold lines bid it because they are rarely called) ... P1 and P2 are a wash. So you'll probably end up commuting the day before and after a stretch of reserve days. Also there is a lot of sitting around in base. I've flown 3:04 this month.
Good luck.
I disagree with your assesment of new hires on the 900 only sitting around on reserve for a few months...been here since January and only held a line once (next month), and I'm still bidding the #2 reserve line i just lucked out cause people want thanksgiving off...I saw 934XJ in MSP the other day so until we start seeing DAL planes on property it's going to be awhile...
I disagree with your assesment of new hires on the 900 only sitting around on reserve for a few months...been here since January and only held a line once (next month), and I'm still bidding the #2 reserve line i just lucked out cause people want thanksgiving off
Yeah but didnt we stop hiring for half the year? Starting in January was the tail end of the initial hiring spurt. Wont the list grow pretty quick when we are hiring 16 FO's every other month into the 900?
Yeah but didnt we stop hiring for half the year? Starting in January was the tail end of the initial hiring spurt. Wont the list grow pretty quick when we are hiring 16 FO's every other month into the 900?
I'de say it was early march...hiring 16 FO's a month is all hearsay...we are hiring people for planes that arent here and no one knows if we do when they are coming and how many....the list will grow, but where will they go?
I'de say it was early march...hiring 16 FO's a month is all hearsay...we are hiring people for planes that arent here and no one knows if we do when they are coming and how many....the list will grow, but where will they go?
Do you think that aircraft utilization will increase? It seems to me that their are multiple aircraft that sit for quite a while during any given day. An increase in utilization will demand an increase in pilots. At least I think it may.
Didnt this last vacancy have 16 new FO's on it for the 900? How many FO's have we hired into the Saab/900 since this new round of hiring has started? Seems like quite a few.
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