out of UPT ready for regional?
06-15-2007, 08:34 AM
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out of UPT ready for regional?
I am currently almost throught the 1st phase of flying in UPT (T-6's) and will soon go to corpus to train in a king air 90, then get spooled up in the C-130 for the Guard. My question is, do low time mil guys have the skill to go to a regional job right out of UPT? Any comments?
Not trying to start a mil. vs civ. argument as I have done both types of training. Just trying to look down the road a little bit.
Not trying to start a mil. vs civ. argument as I have done both types of training. Just trying to look down the road a little bit.
06-15-2007, 08:57 AM
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You will have something like 215 hours right out of UPT, with about half of it multiengine.
Maybe after you finish at Little Rock you might have the total time, but I don't think anyone counts UPT as PIC time.
Maybe after you finish at Little Rock you might have the total time, but I don't think anyone counts UPT as PIC time.
06-15-2007, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by duece123
I am currently almost throught the 1st phase of flying in UPT (T-6's) and will soon go to corpus to train in a king air 90, then get spooled up in the C-130 for the Guard. My question is, do low time mil guys have the skill to go to a regional job right out of UPT? Any comments?
Not trying to start a mil. vs civ. argument as I have done both types of training. Just trying to look down the road a little bit.
Not trying to start a mil. vs civ. argument as I have done both types of training. Just trying to look down the road a little bit.
06-15-2007, 09:51 AM
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Yes and no. Experience no. But skills wise yes. I worked all last year with nothing but UPT students and once you get through there you definitly have a solid foundation to build on. If you've got 5k hrs in a single engine or light twin you'll be just the same as someone who only has 1k when it comes to getting into that jet. Just different systems.
Once you meet the min requirements I feel you'd be good to go. I've never met a UPT graduate who didn't have what it takes. The training there is much more difficult. Like I said though that's once you have the time. Right now you aren't ready but by the time you get to 1k hrs you'll be a leg up on just about everyone. Just my opinion though.
Once you meet the min requirements I feel you'd be good to go. I've never met a UPT graduate who didn't have what it takes. The training there is much more difficult. Like I said though that's once you have the time. Right now you aren't ready but by the time you get to 1k hrs you'll be a leg up on just about everyone. Just my opinion though.
06-15-2007, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by duece123
I am currently almost throught the 1st phase of flying in UPT (T-6's) and will soon go to corpus to train in a king air 90, then get spooled up in the C-130 for the Guard. My question is, do low time mil guys have the skill to go to a regional job right out of UPT? Any comments?
Not trying to start a mil. vs civ. argument as I have done both types of training. Just trying to look down the road a little bit.
Not trying to start a mil. vs civ. argument as I have done both types of training. Just trying to look down the road a little bit.
However, a guy I know is in a C130 unit that does tactical missions. He says that trying to do both the regional job and stay current checking off all the boxes for his mil gig is a pain in the a$$ as far as time off goes.
One more thing, and I'm not flaming you or any other military type. But if UPT has been the only training you have done, don't be that guy in regional ground school. You know, the guy that keeps poping off "well, in the military that's not how we do it", or, "it's not like that in the 130". Although you have valuable skills and training, the methods of the regionals may be different that what you have been used to so far.
06-15-2007, 05:26 PM
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Regionals are hiring wet commercials to fly jets. Compared to that a winged military aviator has exemplary qualifications. But I would try to pick up a little time and apply to a "better" regional.
06-15-2007, 05:43 PM
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are you C130 E, H, or J. I know an older model 130 guy who struggled bigtime in the CRJ with all the glass stuff. If youre flying the J model youll probably do better cuz that has a real FMS. Would of been nicer if you got to fly the Beechjet (T-1) because that has the same Honeywell FMS as the CRJ so youd be well ahead of the game. But hey youre down in corpus bangin all sorts of chicks so I would say thats a great trade-off!
06-15-2007, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by duece123
. My question is, do low time mil guys have the skill to go to a regional job right out of UPT? Any comments?
06-16-2007, 06:00 AM
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thanks for the reps, the reason I ask all these is because I went cross country last weekend, and ended up in KSDF at about 1030-1100 doing multiples with all the UPS traffic. I felt like I was about a good 15 mins behind the plane and my coms were a pile of $hit. I guess it will come with time, I still have a long way to go before UPT complete.
ghilis- H2's, old school, no glass, $hitty auto pilot, plus I can't give up the life in Corpus!
ghilis- H2's, old school, no glass, $hitty auto pilot, plus I can't give up the life in Corpus!
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