Not that I'm aware but our 50 seater captains make the same as the guys flying the 900's and our quality of our life is certainly much better. On time bonuses, profit sharing, etc. The issue is pay, and these guys seem to be ok with flying a 90 seater for peanuts, just like another regional I know of that flies 70-75 Ejets for 50 seat pay.
You out of IOE yet?
I was wondering when the RAH comment would slide out. I'd go into a big long speech about how when our contract was signed, E170's were a pipe dream, the industry was in the sh!tter and we had a pilot group of 600 working on their first contract...but that would fall on deaf ears...again...
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Not to burst your bubble, but flying 700's and 900's for 50 seater rates is hardly an accomplishment. There are a number of reasons why the skywest pilot group needs representation, the one above is probably the most obvious...But hey if you're happy flying "DC 9" size aircraft for substandard pay, well by all means.
Sanchez, I hope I fly with you, this post is 100% dead on, I owe you a beer
Another ignorant comment from an ignorant pilot. I'm not calling you stupid, just saying you don't know what you're talking about. We no longer get paid 50 seat rate and our rates (which includes our pay rigging) is among the tops in the industry. Remember that we're operating thin margins industry wide and can only be paid so much. A $1 or 2 here or there’s a drop in a bucket, with our policies and bonuses we make much more than you realize. I guarantee that we do!
BTW my card is in and we need legal representation before SKW takes a turn for the south. I don’t want to break the bank and I understand that we can’t get paid much more than we currently are, but I want more improvements to QOL (even though we second only to AWAC) and legal representation so that when things go south and Mgmnt tries to cut our wages by 30% then we can actually do something about it.
So is that what management is telling you guys? How much do they get paid?, come on bro are you serious?
Not to burst your bubble, but flying 700's and 900's for 50 seater rates is hardly an accomplishment. There are a number of reasons why the skywest pilot group needs representation, the one above is probably the most obvious...But hey if you're happy flying "DC 9" size aircraft for substandard pay, well by all means.
Why are you posting a press release put out by SKYWEST, INC. and not the press release put out by ALPA? How fair and balanced is that, Ellen?
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Release #07.036
June 29, 2007
SkyWest Pilots Score another Legal Victory
Court Issues Preliminary Injunction Upholding Pilots’ Right to Organize
San Francisco, CA — On June 27, 2007, the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California issued a preliminary injunction upholding SkyWest Airlines pilots’ federal rights to discuss and learn more about the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA) and the benefits of union representation, and finding that the company had unlawfully interfered with those rights. The SkyWest Pilots ALPA Organizing Committee is working with ALPA to gain union representation for SkyWest pilots.
“This injunction is a great victory for SkyWest pilots,” said ALPA President Captain John Prater. “It will empower them to take ownership of their lives through access to information that can further their professional futures. ALPA stands ready to help the Organizing Committee in whatever capacity needed to foster additional wins for workers rights.”
The preliminary injunction allows SkyWest pilots to continue to wear ALPA lanyards, talk about ALPA openly, and distribute ALPA-related materials on non-work time in non-work areas such as the crew lounge and bulletin boards—all rights which the company has sought throughout this process to deny.
The Court concluded that the Organizing Committee had made a strong showing that SkyWest management has unlawfully interfered with the federal right of SkyWest pilots to organize. In its opinion, the Court also addressed SkyWest’s funding of its in-house pilot organization. Although the Court declined to order SkyWest to cease funding immediately, it did indicate that management’s 100 percent funding of the organization almost certainly violates the Railway Labor Act.
The preliminary injunction vindicates the right of pilots to organize and sends a strong message to SkyWest that it may not discriminate against or attempt to silence pilots who support ALPA. More than 2,600 pilots fly for the St. George, Utah-based SkyWest Airlines, Inc., serving 19.5 million passengers in 140 cities in the U.S. and Canada.
Formed in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilots union, representing more than 60,000 pilots and crewmembers at 41 airlines in the U.S. and Canada.
So is that what management is telling you guys? How much do they get paid?, come on bro are you serious?
You should wake up and take a lesson in business 101. After all XJT's running razor thin margins (Mesa comes mind) in LAX for the DAL flying. The bottom line, the majors are starting to realize they can pit one regional against the other in order to lower cost. Look at DAL; they awarded MAG flying because they'll do it cheaper than everyone else and they use SKW, RAH, XJT, Pinnacle, MAG, ASA and Comair. Do you think they’re doing this just because? No it’s for two primary reasons. 1) So that no, one regional had them by the balls. & 2) So they can pit one against the other to lower cost when RFP’s come up. I now you’re not as delusional as you come off sometimes.
Mgmnt, I don't believe a word they say!
No offense, I'm just asking a simple question; do you have a problem with short term memory? It would explain a lot.
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Why are you posting a press release put out by SKYWEST, INC. and not the press release put out by ALPA? How fair and balanced is that, Ellen?
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Release #07.036
June 29, 2007
SkyWest Pilots Score another Legal Victory
Court Issues Preliminary Injunction Upholding Pilots’ Right to Organize
San Francisco, CA — On June 27, 2007, the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California issued a preliminary injunction upholding SkyWest Airlines pilots’ federal rights to discuss and learn more about the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA) and the benefits of union representation, and finding that the company had unlawfully interfered with those rights. The SkyWest Pilots ALPA Organizing Committee is working with ALPA to gain union representation for SkyWest pilots.
“This injunction is a great victory for SkyWest pilots,” said ALPA President Captain John Prater. “It will empower them to take ownership of their lives through access to information that can further their professional futures. ALPA stands ready to help the Organizing Committee in whatever capacity needed to foster additional wins for workers rights.”
The preliminary injunction allows SkyWest pilots to continue to wear ALPA lanyards, talk about ALPA openly, and distribute ALPA-related materials on non-work time in non-work areas such as the crew lounge and bulletin boards—all rights which the company has sought throughout this process to deny.
The Court concluded that the Organizing Committee had made a strong showing that SkyWest management has unlawfully interfered with the federal right of SkyWest pilots to organize. In its opinion, the Court also addressed SkyWest’s funding of its in-house pilot organization. Although the Court declined to order SkyWest to cease funding immediately, it did indicate that management’s 100 percent funding of the organization almost certainly violates the Railway Labor Act.
The preliminary injunction vindicates the right of pilots to organize and sends a strong message to SkyWest that it may not discriminate against or attempt to silence pilots who support ALPA. More than 2,600 pilots fly for the St. George, Utah-based SkyWest Airlines, Inc., serving 19.5 million passengers in 140 cities in the U.S. and Canada.
Formed in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilots union, representing more than 60,000 pilots and crewmembers at 41 airlines in the U.S. and Canada.
Vote's coming!
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You should wake up and take a lesson in business 101. After all XJT's running razor thin margins (Mesa comes mind) in LAX for the DAL flying. The bottom line, the majors are starting to realize they can pit one regional against the other in order to lower cost. Look at DAL; they awarded MAG flying because they'll do it cheaper than everyone else and they use SKW, RAH, XJT, Pinnacle, MAG, ASA and Comair. Do you think they’re doing this just because? No it’s for two primary reasons. 1) So that no, one regional had them by the balls. & 2) So they can pit one against the other to lower cost when RFP’s come up. I now you’re not as delusional as you come off sometimes.
Mgmnt, I don't believe a word they say!
No offense, I'm just asking a simple question; do you have a problem with short term memory? It would explain a lot.
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