Comair updates?
01-10-2009, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
True dat!
I've only been here 2 years and even in that time, I have seen so many changes (all bad). I was never negative about the company or my job, until the last 6 months. I have seen people being furloughed, people being fired for hearsay, schedule violations, cut backs in just about every facet of the company, and all the displacement...no displacement....displacement...furlough back and forth with no concern for peoples lives or families. I have spoken with the new CEO and he has NO good news for this company. I have read a letter from RA that showed DAL's lack of concern in Comair's situation.
The company started with just small piston a/c and grew to a great airline, at the front of technology in the 1990's......when DAL took over, it should have become even greater....but it only got worse and continues to get worse every day. But, we all know that.
I've only been here 2 years and even in that time, I have seen so many changes (all bad). I was never negative about the company or my job, until the last 6 months. I have seen people being furloughed, people being fired for hearsay, schedule violations, cut backs in just about every facet of the company, and all the displacement...no displacement....displacement...furlough back and forth with no concern for peoples lives or families. I have spoken with the new CEO and he has NO good news for this company. I have read a letter from RA that showed DAL's lack of concern in Comair's situation.
The company started with just small piston a/c and grew to a great airline, at the front of technology in the 1990's......when DAL took over, it should have become even greater....but it only got worse and continues to get worse every day. But, we all know that.
01-10-2009, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
True dat!
I've only been here 2 years and even in that time, I have seen so many changes (all bad). I was never negative about the company or my job, until the last 6 months. I have seen people being furloughed, people being fired for hearsay, schedule violations, cut backs in just about every facet of the company, and all the displacement...no displacement....displacement...furlough back and forth with no concern for peoples lives or families. I have spoken with the new CEO and he has NO good news for this company. I have read a letter from RA that showed DAL's lack of concern in Comair's situation.
The company started with just small piston a/c and grew to a great airline, at the front of technology in the 1990's......when DAL took over, it should have become even greater....but it only got worse and continues to get worse every day. But, we all know that.
I've only been here 2 years and even in that time, I have seen so many changes (all bad). I was never negative about the company or my job, until the last 6 months. I have seen people being furloughed, people being fired for hearsay, schedule violations, cut backs in just about every facet of the company, and all the displacement...no displacement....displacement...furlough back and forth with no concern for peoples lives or families. I have spoken with the new CEO and he has NO good news for this company. I have read a letter from RA that showed DAL's lack of concern in Comair's situation.
The company started with just small piston a/c and grew to a great airline, at the front of technology in the 1990's......when DAL took over, it should have become even greater....but it only got worse and continues to get worse every day. But, we all know that.
01-10-2009, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
I was bored:
Wendy's - started by Dave Thomas, born 1932 in Atlantic City, NJ (first Wendy's was in Columbus 1969, but his first restaurant the Ranch House Restaurant was in Fort Wayne, IN). Still a NJ native
Kinko's - Started by Paul Orfalea in Isla Vista, CA in 1969
Limited - In 1961, Leslie Wexner went to work in father's women's clothes store (CMH) and it progressed from there (you get this one)
Express - Started in Chicago 1980. Integrated with Structure, a Limited company in 2001, who sold 75% of shares to Golden Gate Capital in 2007 (SFO based)
Bob Evans - Started in Rio Grande, OH - 91 miles South of CMH
Abercrombie - Started in 1892, in NYC, by David Abercrombie (Born in Baltimore, MD). Later merged with Ezra Fitch of Kingston, NY
NetJets - Started as Executive Jet Aviation in 1964 in CMH, later bought by Berkshire Hathaway (of Omaha, NE)
2 out of 7 ain't bad
Wendy's - started by Dave Thomas, born 1932 in Atlantic City, NJ (first Wendy's was in Columbus 1969, but his first restaurant the Ranch House Restaurant was in Fort Wayne, IN). Still a NJ native
Kinko's - Started by Paul Orfalea in Isla Vista, CA in 1969
Limited - In 1961, Leslie Wexner went to work in father's women's clothes store (CMH) and it progressed from there (you get this one)
Express - Started in Chicago 1980. Integrated with Structure, a Limited company in 2001, who sold 75% of shares to Golden Gate Capital in 2007 (SFO based)
Bob Evans - Started in Rio Grande, OH - 91 miles South of CMH
Abercrombie - Started in 1892, in NYC, by David Abercrombie (Born in Baltimore, MD). Later merged with Ezra Fitch of Kingston, NY
NetJets - Started as Executive Jet Aviation in 1964 in CMH, later bought by Berkshire Hathaway (of Omaha, NE)
2 out of 7 ain't bad
01-10-2009, 06:29 PM
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Talked to a ramp agent today that says all the vendors in Concourse C still have their products on the shelves over there. They are hearing that it will reopen within the next month. What other rumors are out there?
01-10-2009, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by In Hoc
ok forgot to mention nationwide and proctor and gamble for the cincy folks. but i guess everyone in ohio and kentucky are retards... i agree most at comair are, but don't disrespect the folks that live around here
Kroger, Macy's, Frontgate, Luxottica (US HQ) are a few more.
01-10-2009, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by In Hoc
And for your research purposes. every single company i listed headquarters are in CMH or southern ohio.
Oh, and nice football team
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01-10-2009, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
When you say no good news, what was some of the things he shared with you? More furloughs, a slow wind down of Comair? I'm thankful they did at least hire me and the five other pilots in other capacities to work for them, with the thought of moving to the flight side of the house, but if NG4 sees something that will adversly affect that, well..............
Question - What do you see for Comair in the year 2009?
Answer - "I see no good news coming our way this year. My goal for 2009 is to try to keep the company from shrinking any further than it has. I don't foresee bringing anyone back that has or will be furloughed, but will try not to furlough further."
Question - With the furlough of FO's on the lower end of the pay scale, isn't it true that the cost per hour to operate the aircraft is increased (with higher paid crew) and isn't it true that DAL claims that we are already more expensive than other DCI carriers?
Answer - "This is very true, and we are going to have to make further cuts in spending in other areas of the company to make up for this problem."
Question - What do you see happening if Mesa loses the court case with DAL?
Answer - "I really don't see Comair getting any of that flying if Freedom is not around, in fact I see much of that flying being cut all together by DAL."
Question - When Comair got the CRJ in 1993, they were at the leading edge of regional airline technology. Why did Comair never advance technology by getting more 700's, 900's, E-170's, or E190's. Now, with the desire to do away with 50 seaters, Comair is behind every other DCI carrier. In a reply to my letter to RA, he blamed Comair management and ALPA for this. Isn't it DAL that determines who gets the planes now that we are wholly owned?
Answer - "RA said that it was Comair's fault? Hmmm."
Question - CVG seems to be filled with other DCI regionals (skywest, republic, mesa, etc), even though that is Comair's home base. Why is this?
Answer - "DAL has determined to not let any one carrier dominate any one location, so they use several carriers in CVG. The other carriers still operate cheaper than Comair, even after the markup is taken off our costs."
These were some Q&A's, I actually talked to him for around 20 minutes. I also still have copies of the letter to RA and his reply, if anyone is interested. It was previously posted on a different forum.
Final note: JB - "I'm not here to hide anything or blow smoke up anyone's ass. It doesn't look good for us right now, and I will tell you that."
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