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Old 09-08-2007, 06:47 PM   #51 (permalink)
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All offers subject to change. Participation may vary. All applications will be accepted. JFK crash pad on approved credit. Minimum 6 month reserve, plus tax, title, documentation and uniform. See airline for details.
Nice. Sleep not included? What about the cardboard box under the bridge? I hear it's nice and warm too.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:54 PM   #52 (permalink)
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What about the cardboard box under the bridge? I hear it's nice and warm too.
Only if I get it with reduced rest and a paycut....
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:30 PM   #53 (permalink)
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And fries...
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:16 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Hit the nail on the head

60% of the reserves are in the short call window
40% of the reserves are in the long call windows

Makes it very difficult to schedule wonder why it seems as if your tagged everytime you come into CVG, why we dont drop anything. yea there people at home but when you have a 9hr call out well alot of good they do. Let alone a 12hr call out. September is a slow month to begin with so hopefully is picks up and we will be back in business.

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Yeah but Im short call JFK....hehe....I just get confused how my sim partner flew over guarentee and I flew 8 hours.....we are both short call...... Cannot wait for October. I forget how to fly.....seriously. haha
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:16 AM   #55 (permalink)
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The question was asked "why the mass exodus" a while back. QOL, morale, money, better outlook elsewhere, you name it. I know 3 guys with nearly 4 years exp. who went to Pinnacle to get Capt. awards. I know they have slowed this now, but thats a lot of seniority to lose for a lateral move (even if it is for an upgrade). Still, I concidered it too.

I didn't start looking until they cancelled my upgrade (along with nearly 80 others). Then I decided I was done here. After a 13% paycut and nearly 20% reduction in flying over the summer, as well as losing 2-3 days off per month with the crappy lines they are putting out, I just couldn't see staying around any more. You would think with nearly 5 years here and bidding in the top 10% in the seat you could get a good schedule, but you would be wrong. On top of that, my last few pay checks have not broken $1000. And I am not the only one that has happened to.

It appears management is trying to take a page from Mesa's management book. They are telling senior people they aren't wanted any more while having trouble filling new hire classes if they stick to their published minimums. One rumor has them looking at private multi quals. You can get your commercial when you take your checkride in the sim at the end of training.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:25 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm in class now and they are telling us 24 newhires a month from now until summer next year.
There are 3 new hire classes in October according to the bid packet. 32 total pilots. I hope they are wrong and that 24 a month turns into 50/month as people keep leaving for greener grass.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:45 AM   #57 (permalink)
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20 more pilots left the company last month according to the October bid packet.

10 CA's
10 FO's
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:44 AM   #58 (permalink)
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The question was asked "why the mass exodus" a while back. QOL, morale, money, better outlook elsewhere, you name it. I know 3 guys with nearly 4 years exp. who went to Pinnacle to get Capt. awards. I know they have slowed this now, but thats a lot of seniority to lose for a lateral move (even if it is for an upgrade). Still, I concidered it too.

I didn't start looking until they cancelled my upgrade (along with nearly 80 others). Then I decided I was done here. After a 13% paycut and nearly 20% reduction in flying over the summer, as well as losing 2-3 days off per month with the crappy lines they are putting out, I just couldn't see staying around any more. You would think with nearly 5 years here and bidding in the top 10% in the seat you could get a good schedule, but you would be wrong. On top of that, my last few pay checks have not broken $1000. And I am not the only one that has happened to.

It appears management is trying to take a page from Mesa's management book. They are telling senior people they aren't wanted any more while having trouble filling new hire classes if they stick to their published minimums. One rumor has them looking at private multi quals. You can get your commercial when you take your checkride in the sim at the end of training.

Explain to me maybe my math is not that great but I assume you are not on First Year Pay, Thus I am going out on a limb and say you are getting paid $35 per hour, if your gurantee is 75 hours that equates to about $2600 per month taking 30 % for taxes leaves you with about $1800 per month now if you get about $400 for per diam that would total about $2200 per month I dont know if you choose to drop everything on your line or what your situation is but you should be making no less than $2200 per month and thats just with the monthly gurantee. I dont know maybe my math is all wrong,

On another note Keep the RUMOR going, thats what keeps this industry intresting he say she say LOL got to love it,

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Old 09-10-2007, 11:59 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I'm in class now and they are telling us 24 newhires a month from now until summer next year.

DomainAirTrix - where are they sending guys after their checkrides - still JFK? I'm in the 9/24 class. If you want JFK, will you get it?
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:04 PM   #60 (permalink)
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The question was asked "why the mass exodus" a while back. QOL, morale, money, better outlook elsewhere, you name it. I know 3 guys with nearly 4 years exp. who went to Pinnacle to get Capt. awards. I know they have slowed this now, but thats a lot of seniority to lose for a lateral move (even if it is for an upgrade). Still, I concidered it too.

I didn't start looking until they cancelled my upgrade (along with nearly 80 others). Then I decided I was done here. After a 13% paycut and nearly 20% reduction in flying over the summer, as well as losing 2-3 days off per month with the crappy lines they are putting out, I just couldn't see staying around any more. You would think with nearly 5 years here and bidding in the top 10% in the seat you could get a good schedule, but you would be wrong. On top of that, my last few pay checks have not broken $1000. And I am not the only one that has happened to.

It appears management is trying to take a page from Mesa's management book. They are telling senior people they aren't wanted any more while having trouble filling new hire classes if they stick to their published minimums. One rumor has them looking at private multi quals. You can get your commercial when you take your checkride in the sim at the end of training.
Yeah, I am going to raise the BS flag on that one too.

Not breaking $1000 on 5th year pay? I don't think so. On the flip side, I know a guy who is 2nd year and walked away (take home) over $3000 in one check. So, its all what you make of it.
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