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Old 10-04-2008, 06:33 AM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #8691 (permalink)
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No. I can gurarantee you this was an intentional, deliberate act. The screw up is the entire management team's lack of leadership, integrity and ability to manage. They are more like high school hall monitors than managers. "Where's your hall pass?"

An accidental oversight would be payroll forgetting to pay a pilot premium pay for EF rather than straight pay.

An intentional act is deducting hundreds of dollards from 209 pilots' paychecks, leaving several with $0 and only changing their behavior when the Department of Labor and the full force of ALPA gets involved.
So you really believe that the KY Dept of Labor and the Governor himself, on one days notice, intervened in a labor issue that involves 209 pilots?
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:58 AM   #8692 (permalink)
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So you really believe that the KY Dept of Labor and the Governor himself, on one days notice, intervened in a labor issue that involves 209 pilots?
If management realized they did the wrong thing they why did they change what they were doing twice? ALPA fought with them so they gave a check for 2/3s and then when they got more heat they refunded it all. They are trying to get away with everything they can. If they did make a mistake I think I would've gotten an apology some where (the memo on epic is a joke that doesn't count). All I got was an attitude in the CP office when I went to get one of my checks.
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:53 AM   #8693 (permalink)
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So you really believe that the KY Dept of Labor and the Governor himself, on one days notice, intervened in a labor issue that involves 209 pilots?
Yes, I do because I was heavily involved and have first hand knowledge. The KY Undersecretary of Labor got involved, not the governor. I'm not too sure where you got that information.

Believe whatever you want to. If you believe this company has your best interests at heart, you are in for a rude awakening.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:15 AM   #8694 (permalink)
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It appears one of our furloughed pilots has connections in high places.
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:01 AM   #8695 (permalink)
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They company is obviously here to help us. They stated this in the recent memo explaining the deduction reversal on epic hidden under my jobs--

"Ultimately, this change benefits our furloughed pilots, and we are pleased about that."

THANK YOU Mgt, we are so fortunate that you were looking out for the little guys!!
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They company is obviously here to help us. They stated this in the recent memo explaining the deduction reversal on epic hidden under my jobs--

"Ultimately, this change benefits our furloughed pilots, and we are pleased about that."

THANK YOU Mgt, we are so fortunate that you were looking out for the little guys!!
This change may help you, and I am happy for you if it does. However, you are giving praise to Mgt for doing their job and abiding by a contract that they signed. How often do they praise you for showing up to work?
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This change may help you, and I am happy for you if it does. However, you are giving praise to Mgt for doing their job and abiding by a contract that they signed. How often do they praise you for showing up to work?
I was being sarcastic. The part about Mgt helping us should have indicated this.
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Happy Furlough Day to my fellow Oct. 5th furloughees! Hope you're enjoying it as much as I am... Weeeeeee! Going to a garbage can cookout later and I've been told I don't have to bring the beer because I'm unemployed. For the first time in a few months, I can't find a reason to complain!
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Good luck to all you guys. Hopefully it wont be long. I'll be joining you in a month.
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have a question.............

i have a day off today and tomorrow is my walk of shame lol. what should i do with my manuals and badge etc. union rep said to mail it certified but was wondering if i can turn it in at jfk(cvg based)? wondering if 5th was a do it day or can be extended if needed?

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