Pilots helping pilots

View over 100 airline profilesAdd to Google



Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
Pinnacle Contract Terminated by Delta in ATL Pinnacle Contract Terminated by Delta in ATL
Register FAQ Advertising Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Regional Regional airlines

 

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums

    Already registered? Login above

OR
 
To take advantage of all the site's features, become a member of
the largest community of airline pilots in the U.S. and beyond.

The advertising to the left will not show if you are a registered user.


Reply
Page 4 of 14 123 4 5678 Last »
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-10-2008, 07:18 AM   #31 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Past V1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Home with my family playing with my daughter as much as possible
Posts: 394
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy171773 View Post
I don't know, I hope that works out. But DL/NW management are already in bed together. If DL wants Pinnacle out, I highly doubt it would then let it's future merger partner to go and make their own deal (unless it's extremely favorable to the airline).

What we can all take away from this is that NO regional carrier is safe right now. Everyone, even the financial sector/investors, thought Pinnacles deal was rock solid and DL would never touch it. Delta knows what they're trying to do(at least they should...) and I cannot see them making these decisions (which could end up financially backfiring BIG TIME) unless they're extremely confident in an outcome in their favor.
Look at this from NW/DL perspective....I would have to wonder....is DL contract with PNCL cheaper or is NW with PNCL cheaper....the smart thing for DL/NWA is to cancel the most expensive one right?!?! Ok say PNCL rolls those 900's into NW operations then they are under a cheaper and more efficent contract for both DL/NWA....so this could all mean is that NWA/DL are shuffling this around to make things more streamline....per say
__________________
I was inverted...
Past V1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertising above will not show if you are a registered user.
Old 06-10-2008, 07:19 AM   #32 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
CaribPilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Stretched Barbie Jet
Posts: 239
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airsupport View Post
ha. you tell me to double check.. maybe you should have double checked before saying delta holds the lean on the planes...


Aircraft Financing and Capital Expenditures
The total purchase commitment for the 15 Q400 and 16 CRJ-900 aircraft that the Company has on order is approximately $660 million. The Company expects that it will purchase all 31 aircraft using a combination of internal capital resources and debt financing. The Company has obtained financing commitments from a third party and from the aircraft manufacturer. Based upon these commitments, the Company currently anticipates it can finance approximately 85% of the net purchase price of each aircraft at interest rates between 7.0% and 8.5% and for terms ranging from 12 to 15 years. The Company is also pursuing other third party financing options, including operating leases, and may use such additional financing options to the extent that they provide better economics
Hey you learn something new everyday right?

To be totally honest I just didnt care enough to research.
CaribPilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 07:20 AM   #33 (permalink)
Banned
 
Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 698
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superpilot92 View Post
I am hearing this happened in part because the New DAL (NWA/DAL) will have dc9's flying out of atl to replace a bunch of regional jets with the upcoming capacity reductions. Good luck guys we all will need it with the upcoming changes to our industry.
If that would be the case, congrats for mainline pilots. Any time a major will take away regional flying and give it back to you guys the better. -900 is a joke that is replacing you DC-9 flying anyways.
tpersuit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 07:20 AM   #34 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: CRJ
Posts: 2,347
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Past V1 View Post
Look at this from NW/DL perspective....I would have to wonder....is DL contract with PNCL cheaper or is NW with PNCL cheaper....the smart thing for DL/NWA is to cancel the most expensive one right?!?! Ok say PNCL rolls those 900's into NW operations then they are under a cheaper and more efficent contract for both DL/NWA....so this could all mean is that NWA/DL are shuffling this around to make things more streamline....per say
ha... interesting thought... sounds like more smoke and mirrors to me!

lets just all enjoy the pizza party they are having tomorrow for our STELLAR performance!! LOL
Airsupport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 07:25 AM   #35 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
mooney's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: CL-65 captain
Posts: 1,760
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by tpersuit View Post
Stop acting like no-one is immune with a 10-year contract, we are ALL GOING TO FEEL THE PAIN this year.

Tper which way do you really feel? you posted this just yesterday...
"I feel pretty good with 2,000 pilot jobs guaranteed for the next 7 years here."

You waffle more than the Clintons!
mooney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 07:26 AM   #36 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 462
Default
dont have time to read all of the posts, so it might have been said. But if that is true (or if it happens) it explains why comair is madly hiring.
threegreen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 07:27 AM   #37 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
mooney's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: CL-65 captain
Posts: 1,760
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by av8sean View Post
Somehow I see these 900's ending up in DTW or MSP after the dust settles....

Nope Trenary is working on a press release saying they are going to Colgan Then he is gonna tell the pilots "whoever wants to fly these for $50/hour can have them......"
mooney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 07:27 AM   #38 (permalink)
Banned
 
Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 698
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by mooney View Post
Tper which way do you really feel? you posted this just yesterday...
"I feel pretty good with 2,000 pilot jobs guaranteed for the next 7 years here."

You waffle more than the Clintons!
we have 2,800 pilots right now, so that would make my point valid. I was stating we could very much be a 2,000 pilot airline next year if things keep getting worse.
tpersuit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 07:28 AM   #39 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
djrogs03's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: CRJ900 FO
Posts: 427
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airsupport View Post
ha... interesting thought... sounds like more smoke and mirrors to me!

lets just all enjoy the pizza party they are having tomorrow for our STELLAR performance!! LOL
you think they could paint the 900's that fast to pput em in the NWA system then turn em around and paint em Delta again a few months later?
djrogs03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 07:28 AM   #40 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
IFly17's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: CL-65 FO
Posts: 120
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by av8sean View Post
Delta tried to pull this on Freedom Air and got spanked, now they want to do the same thing on Pinnacle? What the F?
I've never heard getting an injunction as being spanked. It just means you can't cancel the contract until the matter is decided in court. It will be a while before that happens so don't be so quick to toss Delta over your knee and get the spanking hand ready!
Last edited by IFly17; 06-10-2008 at 07:29 AM. Reason: Bad syntax.
IFly17 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Reply
Page 4 of 14 123 4 5678 Last »
 



« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Delta Paying for People to go to Flight School? wannabepilot Flight Schools and Training 34 07-07-2008 12:15 PM
NWA ALPA's Take on the Merger 757Driver Mergers and Acquisitions 190 04-19-2008 11:27 AM
DAL/NW Labor issues Q & A Scoop Mergers and Acquisitions 38 04-16-2008 07:13 AM
Delta Dropped Mesa Contract at JFK dino1pilot Major 40 04-06-2008 05:08 AM
Delta's high price of survival Sir James Major 0 04-13-2005 10:13 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:10 PM.

Advertising - Contact Us - Airline Pilot Central - Privacy Policy - Terms and Conditions - Career - Archive - Top

vBulletin® v3.8.6, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2012 Internet Brands, Inc.