POPA

Boy, what a fickle bunch of people you group are.
I see countless posts on these forums about how we all need be be unified, and stand together, and rah rah rah sis-boom-bah! Finally, an opportunity arises for us to stand together as two separate unions and another non-union carrier, and you all turn your back on it.
First, you need to note that this isn't an instantaneous shut-down of UAL pilots on jumpseats. It's an effort to solve the problem before it comes to a "jumpseat war."
Second, this isn't a knee-jerk reaction to a recent problem. This is a last-ditch effort to rectify a years-long problem that UAL has refused to fix time and time again.
I, for one, fully support our unions' in this effort. Should 8/1 roll around without the problem being solved, I will support an enforcement of this ultimatum. If my captains do not, I will kindly remind them of the Teamsters' new policy (checking on their green bag tags, of course ).
I sincerely hope that anybody who threatens to walk off the job over this new policy carries through on their threat.

ryguy

WOW, that is an incredibly arrogant post. This kind of attitude is very abundant at UAL it seems, from the top down. With all the stuff going on right now I don't think this is the attitude to have.

I don't have a dog in the jumpseat fight anymore. My management has chosen to not be interested in reciprocating so therefore we don't have any formal agreements. Something good has come of that for me though, I have guaranteed seats to work when I need them. I'm fortunate enough to drive to work a lot of the time and when I do need to commute, I just buy a ticket.

I am bringing this up for one reason. Even though UAL is sometimes the cheapest when I need to get somewhere, I don't buy a ticket on them. I don't buy the ticket because this is the ATTITUDE I have seen far too often from UAL employees. So maybe instead of getting the "fight on", you should ask yourself how you could help fix things so I would BUY a ticket on your airline and add revenue to the company. I can tell you, many many people I talk to feel the same way. You may think being a UAL pilot is the hottest thing going in aviation since the jet engine but you are living in a very arrogant past.

dojetdriver

Actaully, ExpressJet just solved most of their problem, and not with the help of SkyWest. GL could always use the work, but are they going to run a B1900/EMB-120 from ORD to CHS or ORD to SAV?

Lynx, same thing. Going to run the Q400 from DEN to PSP or DEN to EUG?

Yep, UAL IS good at screwing at people. It was actually pretty amazing to see how quickly they replaced ACA in IAD. Although it was a goat rope. But like I said, they already went with the lowest bidders that could to provide the feed they need. In other words, they have the cheapest operators flying the 70 seaters already.

Low & Slow

Isn't UAL led by a CEO who proclaims that employee morale isn't his problem? Don't mistake employee arrogance with employees who have been beaten down and robbed and simply don't care anymore - that's apathy.

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Low & Slow

Priceless!

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ryguy

I hear ya on that front. Whether it is apathy or arrogance, the resulting attitude problem is the same. I started working when I was 12 years old and was taught something very early. No matter what your job is, do it with pride and do it right. The customers didn't rob the employees and they deserve better treatment than they are getting. If the job is that terrible then quit and do something else. Nothing is worth going through life with so much negativity weighing on you every day.

170Homie

Best post ever! I have nothing but respect for all of you UAL drivers. I agree with not acting until an official correspondance is issued and even then, just walk up to the gate. If your captain is too lazy to do it, you go!

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