If this is how you feel, then quit rooting for me and my co-workers to lose our jobs.
Instead, join our cause: Rooting for a buyout (or anything else that gets every piece of MAG brass out of here) and a improved contract.
We don't enjoy being the worst airline in the regional industry, but after spending 2 years here, the left seat I am sitting in is my ticket out of regionals and to a better life. There are hundreds more just like me.
Please help (if it is only moral support) us keep our paychecks coming, and futures alive. Putting 500 CA's on the street with less than 1000 TPIC, and countless FO's out of a job will do nothing but make our (the airline industry) situation worse.
Do you really want to see more pilots on the street?
Do you really want to see JO out at the expense of 1600 pilots?
When you went there to get the sacred 1000 TPIC did you think about how Mesa wrecks the rest of the industry? Did you think about the pilots who are screwed regularly by JO and his business practices? Inside and outside of Mesa?
Don't say you don't enjoy working for the worst airline in the industry when you went there by choice. For the past several years any pilot could have gone to just about any other carrier. But instead hundreds of pilots have decided that they were going to sell themselves out to Mesa for the quick upgrade.
The contract at Mesa has been used as the example to every other pilot in this business to cut costs. "Mesa does it for this price, why won't you?" "Mesa allows only 8 days per month off? Why won't you do it like that?"
So don't come whining when many parts of the rest of the industry would like nothing more than to see Mesa as a company go away. The business practices that Mesa has used are examples of why this business is going downhill.
Do I want to see Mesa pilots without jobs? No. But nobody there didn't know exactly what they were signing up for when they signed up.
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When you went there to get the sacred 1000 TPIC did you think about how Mesa wrecks the rest of the industry? Did you think about the pilots who are screwed regularly by JO and his business practices? Inside and outside of Mesa?
Don't say you don't enjoy working for the worst airline in the industry when you went there by choice. For the past several years any pilot could have gone to just about any other carrier. But instead hundreds of pilots have decided that they were going to sell themselves out to Mesa for the quick upgrade.
The contract at Mesa has been used as the example to every other pilot in this business to cut costs. "Mesa does it for this price, why won't you?" "Mesa allows only 8 days per month off? Why won't you do it like that?"
So don't come whining when many parts of the rest of the industry would like nothing more than to see Mesa as a company go away. The business practices that Mesa has used are examples of why this business is going downhill.
Do I want to see Mesa pilots without jobs? No. But nobody there didn't know exactly what they were signing up for when they signed up.
Not whining at all, just asking why everyone has such a hard on to see another airline furlough and go under.
This place was quite different when I got here in early 2006.
If this is how you feel, then quit rooting for me and my co-workers to lose our jobs.
Instead, join our cause: Rooting for a buyout (or anything else that gets every piece of MAG brass out of here) and a improved contract.
We don't enjoy being the worst airline in the regional industry, but after spending 2 years here, the left seat I am sitting in is my ticket out of regionals and to a better life. There are hundreds more just like me.
Please help (if it is only moral support) us keep our paychecks coming, and futures alive. Putting 500 CA's on the street with less than 1000 TPIC, and countless FO's out of a job will do nothing but make our (the airline industry) situation worse.
Do you really want to see more pilots on the street?
Do you really want to see JO out at the expense of 1600 pilots?
Your wasting your time asking these questions. These guys are like fat ladies walking around with two Christams hams under both arms asking, " Wheres the bread!" They are never satisfied at all. So what do they do? com on this site and troll around for chances to blame MESA or any other cause for there low QOL. It's amazing how much power MESA has to lay sway over the entire airline industry. You guys make me laugh! If it's that bad then fix it instead of bellyaching about your current situation. Oh! I forgot thats too much like right! better choose the easy route and knash your teeth and hate on the evil MESA Airline. We may not be the best airline, but IM proud of my coworkers, we stick together inspite of the decisions of Management.
Oh! and for the lame old tired excuse you guys always throw out, You know about " You guys had choices to go to other airlines" give it a break! Alot of us tried that route and did not get accepted. So rather than quit, and just roll over we went with MESA, and yes we knew what we were getting into, somtimes thats the price one has to pay to further ones career.
If you guys dont like your current situation then exercise other options you have, instead of defaulting to the old blame MESA bit: it really is old hat. This is a nasty industry we are ALL in at the moment, but if your only course of action is to play the blame game as many of you have enjoyed doing, then you have already lost, and will be nothing more than cynical old B.......d's. The choice is yours.
Not whining at all, just asking why everyone has such a hard on to see another airline furlough and go under.
This place was quite different when I got here in early 2006.
You've got to be kidding me!! Mesa has been a cancer since long before 2006. Besides, if you've only been there 2+ years and are captain and are whining about not having your 1000 TPIC yet..... well, boo hoo. It is clear that you went there with no intent of doing anything except that. Now it comes around to bite. Karma's a ....., huh?
I'll stop now. But don't expect the rest of the airline world to feel too sorry.
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You've got to be kidding me!! Mesa has been a cancer since long before 2006. Besides, if you've only been there 2+ years and are captain and are whining about not having your 1000 TPIC yet..... well, boo hoo. It is clear that you went there with no intent of doing anything except that. Now it comes around to bite. Karma's a ....., huh?
I'll stop now. But don't expect the rest of the airline world to feel too sorry.
A cancer yes, but the morale and QOL were much, much better then.
Where in my post did I whine about not having my 1000? I said that this job ("the left seat I am sitting in") was my ticket to get a job with the majors/fractionals.
I upgraded in 2 years, and I am quite happy with my career thus far at Mesa.
Don't put words in my mouth.
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As for Mesa circa late 2006, the QOL may have been better than it is now, but the work rules were still way below almost every other regional and the morale was not good.
Many of you may not have had another choice, but if you did your research you would have known that you were taking a gamble on Mesa. After being there for six months you could have interviewed somewhere else as a more marketable candidate and tried to get better job security.
I'm not blaming or judging anybody on their choices, but the fact remains that the writing has been on the wall at Mesa for quite some time now.
Well it's 8 days on reserve 10 with a line per bid period so on avg per month it's 9 on rsv. 11 with a line. Most lines I have seen don't have more than the min.
Search for the word cash. You will see Mesa has about $55 million in unrestricted cash. This was as of March 30, 2008.
A company of this size probably needs about 30 million to execute a liquidation.
JO's nutsack is on the chopping block and hopefully we'll get to listen to his nutless squeling by early next year at the latest.
Note to UAL, DAL and U management - Guys ......don't worry when these clowns flop. There's too much capacity and there will be other feeders who've trimmed over the next few months ready to take over Mesa's mess.
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Mesa has been a cancer since long before 2006. Besides, if you've only been there 2+ years and are captain and are whining about not having your 1000 TPIC yet..... well, boo hoo. It is clear that you went there with no intent of doing anything except that. Now it comes around to bite. Karma's a ....., huh?
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