Pilots helping pilots
View over 100 airline profilesAdd to Google



Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
Register FAQ Advertising Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Regional Regional airlines

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-06-2008, 10:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
Cleared for Takeoff
 
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: Air Bus Driver
Posts: 119
Default What do you think the industry will look like in 5 years?

Just looking for some honest opinions. I know it is unpredictable, but some predictions would be great. As negative of a time this is for the airline industry, I think that it is good. It is going to force management to get there head out of their (you know what), and realize that they need to strategically plan to be successful in this industry.
rickdb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 10:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Salukipilot4590's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Cessna 172 F/O
Posts: 196
Default

I know a certain airline wont be here....and no its not MESA...
__________________
"Life is just a game...sometimes you win...sometimes you lose...sometimes you get herpes...."
Salukipilot4590 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 10:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
AirWillie's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 892
Default

Regulated with a few missing...
AirWillie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 10:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 173
Default

I think there will be a mass exodus of 65 year olds retiring. Prior to the age restriction changed to 65, we were on the verge of a crisis due to a large percentage of pilots ready to retire. I don't think it is the only contributing factor in no one hiring right now but that along with the stagnant economy.
kersplatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2008, 11:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
KingAirPIC's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: EMB120
Posts: 248
Default

Dirigibles.
KingAirPIC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 02:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
HercDriver130's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: CE-501/550/560 PIC....laid off
Posts: 2,271
Default

I predict hiring to crank up 3-4 years out. The Age 65 ISSUE will have run its course and guys will be retiring.....again. Many of those furloughed this time around will probably not come back to the business.... just my feeling on that. Fewer , larger big carriers... Jet blue and airtran will still have their niche.....

I dont like the following senario either but here it is....but DAL, CAL, UAL...etc...types that survive will concentrate on LONG haul domestic and VERY profitable domestic and International flights... the vast majority of domestic flights and feeds will be flown by National/Jet carriers like SKW, RAH, XJT and whom ever else is left. Predicting who will be around is folly as anyone could stumble and fail. The big boys will have the SKW, RAH's and other jet carriers flying slightly larger aircraft .... flame on if you must, just because we dont like it doesnt mean we shouldnt accept the reality that that is what the big boys want.... the unions need to secure better contracts for the Pilots and FAs to make the reality that for many these are career airlines.
HercDriver130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 03:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
flyguyniner11's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: CA Saab 340
Posts: 488
Default

completely different than now, just like it is every 5 yrs
flyguyniner11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 04:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
ZapBrannigan's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Learjet 31
Posts: 119
Default

Oil prices so high that flying will once again be for the wealthy only. Dramatic drawdown in industry capacity to adjust to this new paradigm.
__________________
Save Money. Live Better.
ZapBrannigan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 05:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
HercDriver130's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: CE-501/550/560 PIC....laid off
Posts: 2,271
Default

Many wealthy dont fly commercial now ALREADY....
HercDriver130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 05:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
bryris's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2008
Position: Hotel
Posts: 628
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Oil prices so high that flying will once again be for the wealthy only. Dramatic drawdown in industry capacity to adjust to this new paradigm.
This could be the beginning of a new golden age. Seriously. It could be sort of like a forest fire right now cleaning out the old vegetation - hell Skybus is gone.

Hiring minimums are going to go back up to previous levels, ticket cost will increase weeding out the pajama bottom travelers, and there won't be SOOOOO many flights all the time. The airspace won't be as crowded, either.

There are too many players out there. You fly to XYZ podunk airport and you see 5 or 6 different carriers there, the crew bus from the hotel is full of pilots and FAs.

I think the oil problem sucks, but this industry needed some cleaning if you ask me. Some will be sacrificed. I am not saying this because I am safe..I am expecting my furlough notice in about 4-6 months.

But, like its been said, once age 65 runs its course, hiring will resume in some capacity. There will ALWAYS be more applicants than there are jobs in this industry. This recent "pilot shortage" was a bunch of crap. Even if there was truth to it, its all evening out now back to reality - a surplus.

Have a back up plan to weather the storm. I know I do....

Last edited by bryris : 07-07-2008 at 05:58 AM.
bryris is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Career change to pilot soldierboy Regional 189 06-22-2008 09:26 AM
Where is the 135 industry headed? texaspilot76 Part 135 22 11-27-2007 01:09 PM
Oil Prices Could Hit $80 Next 2 Years SWAjet Major 0 03-03-2005 01:01 PM
Airline workers struggle to get by RockBottom Major 0 02-26-2005 10:46 AM
UAL's Tilton Wants to Acquire Rivals SWAjet Major 1 02-18-2005 01:47 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:08 PM.


Copyright ©2000 - 2009 Internet Brands, Inc.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7