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09-02-2015, 05:31 AM

#6761

Flightcap

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Originally Posted by flyviper

Year 2 Captain

Thanks for the confirmation. I thought that was the case but was unsure.

09-02-2015, 05:37 AM

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CBreezy

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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd

It is a different scale:

FO - $24.24, 35.16, 38.14, 39.49

CA - $57.86, 62.68, 63.82, 68.52...year 12 is currently 86.14.

You go to the next yearly step on the paycheck after your hire date. Rates increase every year on April 1 as well.

Those are your jet rates?

09-02-2015, 05:44 AM

#6763

Lvlng4Spd

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

Those are your jet rates?

Yes, they are.

09-02-2015, 07:06 AM

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CaptYoda

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The first year pay for the jet should be equal or better than the turboprop. Alternatively they should increase the sign in bonus.

09-02-2015, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptYoda

The first year pay for the jet should be equal or better than the turboprop. Alternatively they should increase the sign in bonus.

I agree, but I'll say this again. When choosing a regional or any line of work, look at the totality package that fits you. There're plenty of regionals with higher bonuses and high first year pay. Choose wisely.

09-02-2015, 09:22 AM

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pitchtrim

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Those rates seem really low.

09-02-2015, 09:28 AM

#6767

CaptYoda

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I was looking at Commutair and they are currently offering $30/hr with a 75 hr guarantee plus $7000 if you have an ATP and another $15,000 if you have the requisite FAR 121 time. First year pay could be around $49,000 based on that. I know................ no flow.....double occupancy rooms....DHC-8 etc etc.

09-02-2015, 09:32 AM

#6768

Flightcap

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pitchtrim

Those rates seem really low.

See flyviper's post above.

09-02-2015, 10:44 AM

#6769

Lvlng4Spd

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

Those rates seem really low.

I honestly don't think the 24 first year pay will hold, once we do hire directly into the jet for FOs. There is no timetable for this, as current FOs are yet to bid, and there is little rush as we have nearly 6 months to our first revenue flight. At the time of the agreement, all you had to do was look around to several jet operators that paved the way to such rates. As stated numerous times, it is the total package that is worth a look at. You either see the benefits of being here or you don't. I am very proud and happy to be here and look forward to working with those that do see the opportunity and advantage here. If you don't, hey all the best in your search for better.

09-02-2015, 10:49 AM

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CaptYoda

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There is no doubt that PDT and others mentioned have a lot to offer as far as the regionals are concerned. However $24/hr for the ERJ to start is financial suicide for many of the "would be" takers. 12 months does go by pretty fast, but I can't imagine someone with a family living on that (or even a single person) in PHL without making a lot of sacrifices. It may work for the 20-30 year old age bracket, but not for the rest. I can see new hire pay being forced up to around $40/hr based on demand and lack of supply. The hourly rate might not be $40, but the add-ons (sign-in bonus etc) will equal that IMHO. And yes, the airlines will still make a profit! They have more to lose by canceling flights due to lack of crews.