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Old 07-17-2008, 10:11 AM   #71 (permalink)
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It's really unfortunate for TSA. But it will always remain a bottom feeder until the very end.
If we're a bottom feeder, what is GoJet?
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This is a time where any flying job is a good thing. If someone wants to go there, be honest with yourself, its NOT going to affect you.
How do you know that? Maybe the ability to easily staff GoJet right now will have further implications for TSA pilots.........
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Any time a contract is negotiated based on "industry average" it is affected by morons at places like GJ flying a 70 seat RJ for peanuts. Anytime management looks at another pilot group and says "well they are doing it for less, why won't you?" YOU are affected.

Round and round we go. If you think Gj 70 seat pay is ****ty, look at Skywest, MESA, PSA, AE, and any other CRJ7 operator short of Horizon. All this GJ bashing will never get you anywere

Well the same goes for a falling tide. Think it doesn't affect another pilot? Go talk to a furloughed TSA guy when hes standing in line at the unemployment office while the slimeballs over at GJ fly airplanes that should have been on property at TSA.

I don't blame any GJ pilot, they're exercising their free right. TSA had the chance to have the CRJ7s and said no repeatedly.

I agree with you, GoJet is here to stay. And yes, we should all be mad at the slimeball management that created it. But they still need pilots to move airplanes. And as long as pilots will sell their mothers to the local prostitution establishment and stab their brother in the back to fly big shiny airplanes, we will continue to be our own worst enemy.

That's not saying much chief, this will always continue to happen, one man's ****ty airline is another's treasure. Stop blaming others.


But if you want the bar raised (and I think we all do) then we have to show some unity and not turn a blind eye to pilots who are stepping on the backs of others all in the name of "putting food on the table" (lamest excuse EVER). Who do you think is going to be ultimately responsible for raising the bar? Management?

Why don't you ask, Skywest pilots, Horizon etc. It's hard to believe that there are airlines out there that don't consider themselves as bottom feeders. TSA is not one of them. Rick Leach even told us during ground school. Good luck, you're going to need it
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once again air willie, you trader, its not about the $$. its about tsa guys being out of jobs because gj guys are flying airplanes that belong on our seniority list. and saying tsa didnt want crj7's is false, tsa didnt want it at 50 seat rates, what the rates are now is not the point. tsa pilot were screwed and are continuing to get screwed, and its by the likes of you as well as management.
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Air Willie,

If you think that it's all about hourly rates you are sorely mistaken. If you're gullible enough to believe something coming out of Leach's mouth, you're a retard.

The fact that everybody is cutting back, while Mesa and GoJet can't even staff their planes to present levels is amazing and speaks volumes about their operations.
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willie have you been in the airline industry all of 2 months?
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Getting too flamebaitish.
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