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Old 07-30-2008, 02:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If McCain is in office, we (all pilots) are screwed because he is anti-pilot.
That would be ironic, since Big John is, of course, an ex-Naval aviator.
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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That would be ironic, since Big John is, of course, an ex-Naval aviator.
Bush was an ex-ANG aviator. Nobody would accuse him of being pro-pilot. Your point?

Look at the history of what bills McCain has introduced in the Senate -- one of which would strip our right to strike and commit the pilot groups to baseball-style arbitration after a short negotiation period. If you think arbitration is fair, talk to an Alaska pilot.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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jan of 05 is when the negotiations started. became amendable in may of 05
Sorry to say but your brothers over at ASA made contract negotiations drag out for over 5 years. So why would Pinnacle mgmt or the nmb think they need to do anything faster? You have a few years left, I would be pleasantly surprised if anything happened before 2011.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:26 PM   #14 (permalink)
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How long has Pinnacle been in negotiations? That sounds like bargaining in bad faith to me. 9 hours and the GM workers got what they wanted. I hope the pilots do get released. Good luck to them.
GM workers can also walk off the job and bring the lines to a screeching halt any time they wish. It's time to repeal the RLA.

Read McCain's 2001 letter regarding pilots. If you think he's pro-pilot or for that matter, pro-labor you have another thing coming. Best part, his son is an airline pilot.
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:07 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Vacation time... Lets get what we're worth!
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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WHEN do the next negotiations take place?
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:02 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Mesaba was released in 2004 during the Bush administration. PCL mgmt will not settle until they HAVE TO. Nothing new here... same old dirty tactics.
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Bush was an ex-ANG aviator. Nobody would accuse him of being pro-pilot. Your point?

Look at the history of what bills McCain has introduced in the Senate -- one of which would strip our right to strike and commit the pilot groups to baseball-style arbitration after a short negotiation period. If you think arbitration is fair, talk to an Alaska pilot.
If McCain is anti-pilot it would surprise me. The example of him being a naval aviator aside, I think it would cause some family tensions that I don't think have happened. His son is, and has been for a very long time, an airline pilot. He is a very senior FO, by choice because he likes his schedule and QOL, with a Major. I have known him for more than half my life and can say that he is very supportive of his father's campaign. I am honestly not sure I have heard him speak negative, and we do talk aviation considering our careers.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:18 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Read McCain's 2001 letter regarding pilots. If you think he's pro-pilot or for that matter, pro-labor you have another thing coming. Best part, his son is an airline pilot.
Care to link us? I tried doing a quick Google search but couldn't find anything.
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