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Old 08-19-2008, 02:31 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:46 PM   #42 (permalink)
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good ole' trans states. if you know your contract well enough, usually you can get them to put you on positive space. see our contract says we have to be positive space, but it doesn't specify which level (i dont know how many levels there are). so the company puts us positive space with some kind of level attached to it, which really only gets us ahead of nonrevs, not revenue. pretty $hi!!y huh? yeah. now, with that being said, if you know your contact and know the max duty day after a reduced rest overnight or your near your max nights away from base (differs based on whether or not ur a line holder or on reserve) or something, and these things factor into them having to get you home, then they will put you positive space. it shouldn't be a hassle, but thats the kind of scumbags we have runnin this joint.
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:04 PM   #43 (permalink)
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If you are going home and they aren't benefiting from you anymore, no positive space. I've been left in Chicago before on a company assigned deadhead. We're just property, not people.

If you need to be in position and a deadhead flight is needed to get you there, then you will have a seat, even if it is the jump seat.
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:15 PM   #44 (permalink)
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If you are going home and they aren't benefiting from you anymore, no positive space. I've been left in Chicago before on a company assigned deadhead. We're just property, not people.

If you need to be in position and a deadhead flight is needed to get you there, then you will have a seat, even if it is the jump seat.
The jumpseat should not be used when the company is transporting you somewhere. If they want you there, they should positive space you.

The jumpseat should exist to get pilots to and from home and work on their own time (commuting).
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Old 08-19-2008, 04:01 PM   #45 (permalink)
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The jumpseat should not be used when the company is transporting you somewhere. If they want you there, they should positive space you.

The jumpseat should exist to get pilots to and from home and work on their own time (commuting).
You are right. But when you are standing there staring down the jet bridge at a full airplane, scheduling won't answer the damn phone, and its 3 minutes from push, and that is the only way to make it back on the last day of a trip, I'll take the damn jump seat. And since it is my company metal......

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