ExperimentalAB

Holy crap guys. What a nightmare! ALPA had better get their ducks in a row on this one (if proved to be true, of course). That's beyond wrong

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RiddleEagle18

Beyond wrong true. But if there anything in TSA's scope to prevent it? What recourse will TSA ALPA have?

elcid79

I was wondering when you were going to pop up. Hope things are better @ over at SkyWest! I shoulda come with you!!! Haha..

elcid79

Contracts don't seam to matter anymore. Reference, bankruptcy rulings, reference GoJet....

CaptainCarl

I just read and re-read our scope clause and here's what my interpretation of it is: Because GoJet exists already, we are screwed. It would appear that they can give GoJet whatever they want and not have to give a dang about us at Trans States. We would have to convince a judge that GoJet is an illegal entity to begin with and the company blatantly violated our legal binding contract simply by creating GoJet, even if they did do it through an umbrella company (TSH). I don't understand how any judge would not rule in our favor, unless of course he was being "persuaded" not to.

Here's our scope, you can interpret it for yourself:

"Section 1.B. Scope
1. All flying in and for the scheduled revenue passenger service of the Company and any wet lease or charter flying presently performed or to be performed in the future by the Company, shall be performed by active Pilots on the Trans States Airlines Pilots' Seniority List and shall be flown in accordance with all of the provisions of the Employment agreement and applicable amendments thereto between the Company and the Pilots as represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, International (AFL-CIO).

2.Notwithstanding paragraph B.1. above, the Company may assign or contract out flying for periods not in excess of ninety (90) days if such conduct is necessary to accomplish the needs of the service of the Company, and the Company does not have sufficient aircraft or pilots available to perform the flying assigned or contracted out and no company pilot is furloughed as a result of such contracting out of such flying."

flaps 9

CRJ's in the desert are a dime a dozen. ERJ lease rates were set years ago. Even if the Blow Jet guys make more per hour, the lease rates on the used CRJ's would more than make up the difference

We can only hope this is a very bad rumor, but I wouldn't put it past HK and his band of thieves

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RiddleEagle18

Your probably right on this one. Since the court already said that you are "two separate companies" Management would just argue that GoJets was awarded "new flying", while at the same time saying that TSA's contract has been cnx.

elcid79

Yeah, our scope doesnt even adress this scenario. It was obvious that this was comming once GJ got a 50 seater scale.. No wonder the company has been dragging there tails soo much on our contract.

CaptainCarl

Look ou' me heartys, th' ship be sinkin' an' th' rats be fleein'!

Purpleanga

Are you serious?!!? CA pay is the same. FO pay is the same except at GJ you make 30 instead of 25 2nd year then it's the same. Look it up on this site, the GJ contract is up.