Yeah, our scope doesnt even adress this scenario. It was obvious that this was comming once GJ got a 50 seater scale.. No wonder the company has been dragging there tails soo much on our contract.
Looking at the GJ contract on this site, theirs does. The scope is basically the same just the sentences are re-arranged. And the last paragraph says that in case the GJ senioirty list is merged with another list it should be done in a "fair" manner according to the rules. We'll see....
only thing i can think of is removing E-145's, having one certificate, one aircraft type, and it gets rid of the 25+ year captains we have here, and replaces them with 3 year captains there....Think of the cost savings in that alone, you can give everyone over there a couple buck an hour raise, but trim the fat from our operation and do the same job......
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I hope those rumors really aren't true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it really did happen.
Truth be told, GoJet is such a shi**y company that it isn't even worth it to work myself up on something that might or might not happen. I mean, how long has it been that TSA management has been telling the pilot group that a Chicago base is going to open up very soon. I'll believe it when I see it. TSA management and HoJet are so far below on the feces list that I won't even waste a second of my life when it comes to arguing with those pukes.
I tell you one thing.......if it comes to it that I do get the boot on Feb 5th, and because of their ultimate stupidity they furlough to many and have to do a recall......I'll walk into Randy's office, pull down my pants and leave a hot steamy dooby on his desk.
only thing i can think of is removing E-145's, having one certificate, one aircraft type, and it gets rid of the 25+ year captains we have here, and replaces them with 3 year captains there....Think of the cost savings in that alone, you can give everyone over there a couple buck an hour raise, but trim the fat from our operation and do the same job......
I doubt the CAs will go along with that but maybe that's the idea...
As shown in a previous post, because Gojet is an established "second company" the contract is essentially worthless. I'm sure however that TSA pilots will be offered preferential hiring at Gojet, and we might even see a carrot dangled in front of our noses for part of our longevity (i say part, because there's no way the company would offer full longevity).They'd probably do this, with the hopes that it would help them staff their airline, by say giving you half longevity, 5 year = 2.5 years, etc. Straight to the left seat if you've got the time, etc. I'd doubt that you'd see all that many go, The ramp up would have to be somewhat slow to allow for the expansion, and would probably coincide with our shrinking of airframes (past the american ones) And is possible that a Jet for Jobs situation could be used to assist in the further staffing. Heck, if staffed with CQFO's, it'd be possible to staff the airline with furloughees and totally avoid the need for 75 or so riddle grads....And it'd probably still save $$ over having TSA around.
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I tell you one thing.......if it comes to it that I do get the boot on Feb 5th, and because of their ultimate stupidity they furlough to many and have to do a recall......I'll walk into Randy's office, pull down my pants and leave a hot steamy dooby on his desk.
Hahaha! That made me laugh, quite literally, out loud. I will hold you to that if they do try to recall us.
I hear something in the future... It sounds like... SSSSS... Starts with an "S."
So you're saying they'll just get rid of the whole TSA seniority list rather than merging it with GJ??
Why not? It would save them buku amounts of money. They would simply liquidate Trans States Airlines and transfer all our assets to GoJet. Something very similar happened at Swiss and Cross Air some years ago. I don't remember all the details but the short version goes like this: Swiss went "bankrupt," the umbrella company transferred everything from Swiss to Cross Air and renamed them SwissAir. I'll have to call my pops to get all the details, but I wouldn't be surprised if something very similar happens to us.
I know, that's what really baffles me. Anyone that doesn't have any brains in buisness will even agree that by having one seniority list, and 1 airframe instead of 2 will be cheaper in the long run. Hell, someone even posted that question on the website. Here it is:
If we no longer operate as AmericanConnection in St. Louis, would the company have an interest in merging flight attendant and pilot seniority lists for GoJet and Trans States and operating both companies under one certificate?
And the Answer:
In the event that we no longer have any AmericanConnection flying, we don’t view the above scenario as very likely. While the American scope limitations impacting Trans States Airlines was the driver that forced Trans States Holdings to make the decision to start GoJet, merging these two airlines now would only bring greater operating costs without offsetting efficiencies. This would be an undesirable outcome in any economic environment, especially the one currently impacting our industry. Both airlines operate completely different aircraft. The integration expense, along with the increase in operating costs driven by multiple fleet types, would drastically go up, thereby putting the organization in a noncompetitive position in the marketplace.
I mean can anyone tell me how that logic will make any sense?
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Hahaha! That made me laugh, quite literally, out loud. I will hold you to that if they do try to recall us.
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