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Old 11-06-2008, 03:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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other pilots "having your back" doesn't really mean much these days. Its a race to the bottom, the cheaper survive, that's all.

Go Jet pilots can tell you they have your back, but if their company can get'em more flying, they'll jump all over that. Go Jet needs the business, Go Jet pilots need the flight time to move on.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
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No,UAL looks at TSH as one company. Just like RAH (Shuttle and CHQ) as one company.
I know the people there understand it's a holding company. I'm going to stick with my original statement where UAL, with respect to awarding flying, see Gojets and TSA as two seperate companies; two seperate contracts.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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As a TSA pilot, it's a very simple concept if you look at it in managements eyes:

Cheaper labor is found at GoJets....they were started as an airline to be cheaper labor.

United wants you to fly more 50 seaters...give it to the cheaper labor group in any form possible.

Cheaper labor = more profits = capitalism.

Welcome to America folks. For God's sake there is a profession of people known as "Union busters", and that's all we're going to eat. Saddest part of it is we're all going to wake up tommorrow and do our job as diligent drones because it's illegal to slow down, illegal to call out sick, illegal to waste fuel, illegal to back your union, but it's not illegal to capitalize your company and turn out profits while ruining 100's of families lives.....
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I'll be happy to bring torches. I'll also fight like hell to make sure they don't get a jumpseat.

Once a waterskier, always a waterskier...
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I'll be happy to bring torches. I'll also fight like hell to make sure they don't get a jumpseat.

Once a waterskier, always a waterskier...
I pay my union dues, i'm part of one of our committie's, and I'll do whatever is necessary to protect not only my job, but the dignity of this job.

I'm so tired of walking on a jet bridge, seeing a fellow pilot telling me "yea man, I'm getting furloughed, but before i get furloughed i'm getting displaced to dulles so i have to commute", and then hearing that the other side is running down to florida to recruit people......

I remember thinking a pilot used to be white collar job, not so much anymore
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where's the edit button? I meant "commities"
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:45 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I'll be happy to bring torches. I'll also fight like hell to make sure they don't get a jumpseat.

Once a waterskier, always a waterskier...
I'll first establish that I have no dog in this fight. That said, this is unfortunate. However, it is not the fault of GoJet pilots. If there was a picket line and GoJet pilots were crossing, then yes. Deny the jumpseats. Until then, I recommend you keep a cool head. I'm sure Hulas wants the infighting. Denying jumpseats is for scabs and pilots that go to work for GoJet aren't scabs by any stretch of the imagination.
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Also, it seems kinda coincidence this all comes down right after elections are over, because we all know a democratic party NMB would release a pilot group to strike....

Makes you really think
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I'll first establish that I have no dog in this fight. That said, this is unfortunate. However, it is not the fault of GoJet pilots. If there was a picket line and GoJet pilots were crossing, then yes. Deny the jumpseats. Until then, I recommend you keep a cool head. I'm sure Hulas wants the infighting. Denying jumpseats is for scabs and pilots that go to work for GoJet aren't scabs by any stretch of the imagination.
15 new jets on property = ~150 pilots

No matter where those pilots come from, they're scabs. I don't know where you can find a better definition of a damn scab.
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15 new jets on property = ~150 pilots

No matter where those pilots come from, they're scabs. I don't know where you can find a better definition of a damn scab.
Since you obviously don't know the definition of the word "scab" in the context of this discussion, here it is;

Dictionary.com

4. a worker who refuses to join a labor union or to participate in a union strike, who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.
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