These days it takes quite a bit for me to post anymore.
I find it a shame to all of those that remember me crying foul over thier 50 seat payscale, to see it start coming true.
I would hate to see this for any pilot group, but it hurts more to my former waterskiers that I was proud to be a part of.
While it will be said that I might or should feel the same empathy for all pilot groups, but the fact remains that was my only pilot group that I had known, and it strikes closer to me.
I also wished the pilot group could have burned it down first to make the point, would have never wanted managment to light the match for you. Just cuts your knees out from under you, and takes any kind of control over your fate from you and back firmly back to where it does not need to be.
To my acquaintances, colleagues, and above all my friends, best of luck. Just because the company may fizzle away to nothing, the legacy of all waterskiers will live on in our minds.
4. a worker who refuses to join a labor union or to participate in a union strike, who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.
are we playing a game here of who bolds the best definition?
who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.
Trans States would strike if we're not paid industry average for flying a 50 seat jet, so instead of that happening the company brings the same type of aircraft with another labor group?
....Denying jumpseats is for scabs and pilots that go to work for GoJet aren't scabs by any stretch of the imagination.
TSA served the 50 seat market. Now, we have colleagues losing their jobs while our sister company is hiring to fill 50 seat airplanes they yet have.
There is a principle picket line and those who are willing to cross it do not serve the common good; they’re setting us back in an era where a step forward is nearly unachievable.
Where are the Eagle guys btw? I was hoping for at least a "you got what you had coming to you because you took our flying, but gave us back our 10 planes to save 100+ jobs!"
are we playing a game here of who bolds the best definition?
who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.
Trans States would strike if we're not paid industry average for flying a 50 seat jet, so instead of that happening the company brings the same type of aircraft with another labor group?
No, no game at all. I'm just giving you the definition.
"would strike"?? If TSA strikes, more power to them. However, they're not striking so GJ pilots aren't scabs.
I know the people there understand it's a holding company. I'm going to stick with my original statement where UAL, with respect to awarding flying, see Gojets and TSA as two seperate companies; two seperate contracts.
Not really, UAL only sees TSH performance (both TSA and GJ combined) I know this for a fact. It is the same with awarding flying...based on TSH performance.
TSA served the 50 seat market. Now, we have colleagues losing their jobs while our sister company is hiring to fill 50 seat airplanes they yet have.
There is a principle picket line and those who are willing to cross it do not serve the common good; they’re setting us back in an era where a step forward is nearly unachievable.
It sounds like more of a management/union problem. As for your principle picket line, please show me a press release. Until there's a strike and GJ pilots cross the line, they're not scabs, period.
TSA and GJ are both IBT, right? It sounds like your energies are misdirected.
How is taking a job for significantly less pay, knowing it's in total violation of CBA in place between a company and Pilot Group that much different than crossing the picket line? This is nothing more than subverting an established contract to bust the union. Pilots going to work at GoJet have the exact same effect as those crossing a picket line.
TSA is ALPA. GJ is Teamster but they weren't allowed into 747 (airline) they had to join a local in St. Louis that represents gas station attendants.
No, no game at all. I'm just giving you the definition.
"would strike"?? If TSA strikes, more power to them. However, they're not striking so GJ pilots aren't scabs.
Had TSA pilots had the opportunity to strike over the Go Jet issue we would have. When the government has to give a union the right to strike then we have to a bit more liberal with the use of the word scab. Go Jet pilots are scabs.
How is taking a job for significantly less pay, knowing it's in total violation of CBA in place between a company and Pilot Group that much different than crossing the picket line? This is nothing more than subverting an established contract to bust the union. Pilots going to work at GoJet have the exact same effect as those crossing a picket line.
In the recent past, it seems that people are too loose with using the term "scab". It is being watered down. Should prospective GJ new-hire think about these things? Absolutely. Personally, I would discourage anyone from applying simply for a principled statement. However, they're still not scabs nor should they be treated as such......especially the pilots already on the property.
It seems that Hulas wants the strife and to treat GJ pilots as scabs is playing into his game.
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Originally Posted by Pilotpip
TSA is ALPA. GJ is Teamster but they weren't allowed into 747 (airline) they had to join a local in St. Louis that represents gas station attendants.
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