It sounds like more of a management/union problem. As for your principle picket line, please show me a press release. Until there's a strike and GJ pilots cross the line, they're not scabs, period.
TSA and GJ are both IBT, right? It sounds like your energies are misdirected.
LeftWing I would recommend you join the times. The definition of Scab has changed to the secondayr. No one is going to cross a picket line these days even if we could strike, which we can't. However as we have seen in 2001 with Freedom and 05 with Gojet and although different but somewhat similar case with the RAH/Midwest deal, the definition of scab is someone who is willingly undermining a union contract. And in fact that's what a scab is if you go down the list on webster.
The same company that furloughed me, the same one that was signing my paycheck, is hiring new pilots for the same holdings company. If those new pilots aren't scabs or at least represent the same thing then I don't know what to tell you.
Had TSA pilots had the opportunity to strike over the Go Jet issue we would have. When the government has to give a union the right to strike then we have to a bit more liberal with the use of the word scab. Go Jet pilots are scabs.
Then educate me. Was there a TSA contract impasse that didn't get binding arbitration? Did this result in an NMB imposed cooling off period to delay an actual petition to strike?
I know most won't, but I'd like to see how many Riddle guys being targeted, bite at this cherry...........
Oh you'd be surprised how many people were talking to the recruiters at their booth. I'm guessing it's because Go jets is the only airline hiring. Because last year NO ONE was talking to Go jets...
It sounds like more of a management/union problem. As for your principle picket line, please show me a press release. Until there's a strike and GJ pilots cross the line, they're not scabs, period.
TSA and GJ are both IBT, right? It sounds like your energies are misdirected.
Can somebody just please come up with some other word instead of "scab" because apparently, it's not good enough.. Is there a word we can use to describe those willing to undercut those seeking to make their jobs better??
No, TSA is not part of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
Can somebody just please come up with some other word instead of "scab".. Is there a word we can use to describe those willing to undercut those seeking to make their jobs better??
No, TSA is not part of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
LeftWing I would recommend you join the times. The definition of Scab has changed to the secondayr. No one is going to cross a picket line these days even if we could strike, which we can't. However as we have seen in 2001 with Freedom and 05 with Gojet and although different but somewhat similar case with the RAH/Midwest deal, the definition of scab is someone who is willingly undermining a union contract. And in fact that's what a scab is if you go down the list on webster.
The same company that furloughed me, the same one that was signing my paycheck, is hiring new pilots for the same holdings company. If those new pilots aren't scabs or at least represent the same thing then I don't know what to tell you.
Well, I just checked Webster's and there is no reference to a worker being a scab unless there's a strike.
I understand the alter ego carrier issue and it sucks. However, one who is employed at said carrier isn't a scab.
Anyway, I'm finished so it looks like we'll have to agree to disagree. I really am sympathetic to TSA pilots. However, I will not deny a GJ pilot a jumpseat until they are actually scabs.
I'm trying to remember, as I don't have a copy of the contract anymore, something about forming an alter ego airline with certain criterias like personnel, similar aircraft type, etc... can anyone confirm? And why isn't there a strike going on right now?
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