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Old 11-06-2008, 05:29 PM   #51 (permalink)
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This although not suprising makes me sick. You can never put it past ole uncle hulie. They are already enjoying my job. To all the waterskiers out there good luck and it was a pleasure flying with you guys.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:30 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Well, I just checked Webster's and there is no reference to a worker being a scab unless there's a strike.

I understand the alter ego carrier issue and it sucks. However, one who is employed at said carrier isn't a scab.

Anyway, I'm finished so it looks like we'll have to agree to disagree. I really am sympathetic to TSA pilots. However, I will not deny a GJ pilot a jumpseat until they are actually scabs.
please PM me your info so I can deny you a jumpseat, and make sure any TSA pilot does the same
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:32 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:33 PM   #54 (permalink)
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according to the law, you've gotta be released to strike....i'd much rather just see us not show up anymore....but i don't see that happening...If the union called and told me that it was going down on monday, i can tell you where i WOULDN'T be on monday, that's for sure.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:38 PM   #55 (permalink)
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i will step in and say this: no more bickering on what the definition of what a "scab" is. obviously that will get no where. why not try piece of sh##, or maybe a scumbag? how about dou###? there are a hundred terms in the language to decribe them (gojets). i usually change it up once a week when i see them to keep it fresh and new i call it therapy!!
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:39 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Then educate me. Was there a TSA contract impasse that didn't get binding arbitration? Did this result in an NMB imposed cooling off period to delay an actual petition to strike?

If not, they're not scabs.
Well, only a Go Jet pilot would spend this much time defending them. I am going to go argue with a brick wall. It will be more constructive.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:40 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Wow. I was hired at Tranny States just after the GoJet thing went down, and Rick Leach told us at that time that GoJet was created because of the American scope clause that disallowed involvement with a company that operated anything with more than 50 seats. That was directly from the rat's mouth. Now American is totally out of the picture. If we aren't careful this is going to turn into the new version of the whipsaw. The regional carriers will operate new certificates and force the senior pilots to start over at the bottom and make their own employees reapply and re-interview for their jobs. This is crap, but not wholly without precedent TSA debacles.

I hope that there is a good lawyer out there who can take this case on and bring Leach and his pandering clowns to their knees. The FAA and companies require so much of their pilot groups. We give up lifestyle, pay, and job security while they give us less and less in return. This needs to stop here and now.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:44 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I quit believing anything Leach said when he said, "We hate to furlough. I don't see us furloughing again." I was furloughed Aug. 31st.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:48 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Oh you'd be surprised how many people were talking to the recruiters at their booth. I'm guessing it's because Go jets is the only airline hiring. Because last year NO ONE was talking to Go jets...
Are they offering to help pay for licenses or what.....

It is unjustifiable to work for this company......look, any of you newbie guys/gals out there who are reading these forums anonymously, i know there's a bucket load of you, please for heavens sake DO YOUR RESEARCH......... You will not be respected by any of your peers,........think about it Gojet is the only airline that has to literally hunt for applications in our current industry environment.....I wonder why?
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the definition of scab is someone who is willingly undermining a union contract. And in fact that's what a scab is if you go down the list on webster.

The same company that furloughed me, the same one that was signing my paycheck, is hiring new pilots for the same holdings company. If those new pilots aren't scabs or at least represent the same thing then I don't know what to tell you.
Exactly. If all you gojet defenders wanna call it SCUM instead of SCAB, go ahead. It's all the same to me. Doing another pilot's job for less falls under my definition of SCUM.

It's what is bringing down the profession but some irrational people on here would rather defend it than fight it.

I'll fight it.
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