"Just spoke to two members of our MEC who confirmed everything. Emergency meeting tomorrow, GJ mechanics are in the desert NOW doing pre-buys on -200s."
I'm about to call an MEC member as well to confirm things. I'll report back shortly.
EDIT: Talked to somebody high up in the MEC and he couldn't confirm it 100% but said that everything seemed to be pointing in that direction. He hadn't heard anything official yet though.
Last edited by Copperhed51 : 11-06-2008 at 07:08 PM.
Reason: New information
I know the people there understand it's a holding company. I'm going to stick with my original statement where UAL, with respect to awarding flying, see Gojets and TSA as two seperate companies; two seperate contracts.
The problem is that several of TSA's contracts with united are comming up soon, I do believe. Plus for whats its worth, I verified this story with our Union officials today. Its absolutely 100% true.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! Hold up! Wait a minute!....GoJet getting CRJ-200s is pure SPECULATION..... FACTS people, FACTS. That's all I want to hear out of anyone's mouth.
I'm agreeing with you. This could still be an attempt for the company to increase the attrition rather than having to furlough. Hopefully, that is the case.
I am so beyond angry right now. Honestly I think it's time to organize a strike. Screw the whole government permission thing, just do it. Everybody could potentially get fired, I know. Seriously though, this is just so infuriating. If the TSA pilot group were to man up and do this, it could show the rest of the airline community just how a pilot group can and should act together when everything is standing in their way.
I'm very tempted to begin setting up a behind-the-scenes strike committee. I'm so ****ed right now.
Full Disclosure: Yes I interviewed at GJ after my TSA furlough but they didn't seem to think I was qualified...thank god.
Well if all the Waterskiiers are getting indefinitely furloughed and the flying transferred to the Limburgers then why not? What have you got to lose? I'd be the first guy out the door if I were in that situation (after hiding dead fish in a couple airplanes).
That being said, I'm with Carl on this. Until there is something official from the Union or the company then I would hold off blowing a gasket.
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Well if all the Waterskiiers are getting indefinitely furloughed and the flying transferred to the Limburgers then why not? What have you got to lose? I'd be the first guy out the door if I were in that situation (after hiding dead fish in a couple airplanes).
That being said, I'm with Carl on this. Until there is something official from the Union or the company then I would hold off blowing a gasket.
True, we should wait until something is official. When it is official, the gloves are off. Unfortunately I don't have much power to do anything since I'm furloughed. I guess all I can do is not go back and fly if they call me back to fly when everybody else strikes. This is so ridiculous.
If anyone even thinks of adding anything tonight without verifying it or being able to prove it, I will be the first to question you. You guys hear someone cry "WOLF!" and suddenly everyone is in a panic. Just hold your tongues for now, wait for the meeting tomorrow, and then we will know some more, solid information, maybe.
If you really want to do something positive: Get on an airplane, get your butt down to Daytona Beach, and go inform those rich kids on what kind of company is trying to recruit them (if that really is happening). Or get down to the desert and find out if CRJ-200s are being pulled out of the sand for GoJet.
No one can confirm WHO is flying the airplanes. That is what all of this is about. I guess we'll find out but I'm guessing this preliminary actions by the company to merge the certificates and it looks like it's going to be called Gojets....
Again for whats its worth, I verified this story with several of our Union officials today. Its absolutely 100% true... The "Emergency Meeting" is happening. GoJet IS getting 50 seaters.. Period...
As per the riddle job fair, where is the alpa of old. They should position the most senior Alpa official at the booth next to them. And every pilot that walks up to the gojet table, should then be greated by alpa with a handshake, and told this story.
Back in the 60's Alpa bought an Airline during the Sothern Strike. And staffed it with striking pilots. They flew the exact same routes, at exactly the same time as the Scabs that took the strikers place. They did national add campaigns, for a REGIONAL or Commuter or whatever you wanted to call it. I hope and pray that ALPA fights this again. Alpa used to fight long and hard for the little guys. I pray that they will return to those roots. They even towed banners that said Don't fly X Airline along side of that airlines planes. Even though they can't do that, there are plenty of beaches, plenty of sporting events, and they surely have plenty of pilots who would volunteer. haha. Its time to raise some noise, even if the NMB denies a strike. Alpa can still kick up some dust!
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