The issue is of flight/duty time. Most say that Flight instruction counts towards the same hourly limits as the airline work. I worked for a freight company that didn't mind because I flew so few 121 hours for them. Honestly though, it only took about 15 hours of flight training to remember why it wasn't worth my time. Lots of hours at the airport for little paid hours. Lots of opportunities for things that could lead to FAA investigations. It only takes one of those to be realize how much trouble they can be, even if you are innocent. In addition to trying to think of finding a carrier that will let you do it, try to think about why you want to do it, and decide if it is worth limiting your options to only companies that provide that feature.
Also, I would suggest that you don't live your life by the "So, how do they know what you do on your off time?" approach. You have to maintain a professional standard. Don't smoke weed on your time off. Don't rob banks on your time off. Don't do anything that would keep you from being able to legally do your job. There is a reason that the duty rules place equal responsibility on the pilot and the company for violation- so that you will be responsible for your own compliance. Keep in mind that reserve duty is considered duty time. If you will be working for a company that does anything like mine, you will need your days off for legal rest and for sanity rest.
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That issue is addressed specifically in your company's General Operations Manual. Don't go into business for yourself. Talk to your chief pilot and or director of operations for clarification. That will keep you out of trouble.
If you want to make more money, get a job as a ground or sim instructor.
If you just want to teach or build hours, offer to teach a friend or two for free. That way it doesn't count against your time limits and it's more manageable and flexible.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
CFI work is hard to manage with an airline job.
If you want to make more money, get a job as a ground or sim instructor.
If you just want to teach or build hours, offer to teach a friend or two for free. That way it doesn't count against your time limits and it's more manageable and flexible.
Any flight instructing ispart of total flying whether its for pay or not. The only time that is not included for time limitation purposes is pleasure flying only.
Thanks for the good words of advice folks. Some good points were made. I have prior 121 experience and know the rigors of the schedule. Also, my instructional rate is twice, almost 3 times, what I'd make with a regional. I have instructed for way too long and am ready to get back into 121. I just want to be able to supplement my income with a few flights each month (BFRs, IPCs, etc.). I have a client base that looks to me for those types of flights. Does anyone have any experience with regionals that let them fly for hire outside of the company, besides Horizon? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the good words of advice folks. Some good points were made. I have prior 121 experience and know the rigors of the schedule. Also, my instructional rate is twice, almost 3 times, what I'd make with a regional. I have instructed for way too long and am ready to get back into 121. I just want to be able to supplement my income with a few flights each month (BFRs, IPCs, etc.). I have a client base that looks to me for those types of flights. Does anyone have any experience with regionals that let them fly for hire outside of the company, besides Horizon? Thanks in advance.
Pick up some open time. Last month I picked up a two day worth 10 hours pay, 1.5x pay for open time and I got 15 hours of pay @ $24/hr for a first year f/o. Second year it goes to $34/hr. Best part about it? The first day was a 0.7 flight followed by a DH and then the entire second day CX due to MX issues and I DH'd home on two flights. So 15 hours pay for 0.7 flying and around 3.5 hours of DH time and 30 hours TAFB...
Hey guys!! Long time, no post. Sorry, but I've had alot of stuff going on in my life lately. Thought I'd get back into the forum by posing a question on this thread:
In what way does Civil Air Patrol flying affect you?? I've been a member since I was 12 and I plan to actively volunteer with them probably for life. So does anyone know how doing things like search & rescue, mission transport, and giving checkouts to other CAP pilots may have an effect?? Keep in mind that Civil Air Patrol is an all-volunteer Auxiliary of the Air Force, and members recieve absolutely no compensation, nor are commercial licenses required (except in specific cases, but the reasons have to do level of training/experience). In some cases could CAP come under the airlines' "military exception"?
This has been interpreted by our POI as NOT to include instructing for pay. It's only 135 or 121 flying. You can instruct all you want. The hours as a 91 CFI don't count towards the 121 limits.
Non-compensated flying such as recreational, CAP, or mercy flights don't count towards your limit...just make sure it's non-compensated, keeping in mind that compensation is not necessarily money.
Military reserve flying also does not count even if you do get paid for it.
I would like to see something in writing from the FAA that says paid instructing does not count as commercial flying.
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