He didn't do anything different than thousands of Southwest pilots who would interview, pass the interview, and then would have to shell out thousands of dollars to get the 73 Type in order to get that job.
yeah right. Sounds like you bought your job too and are trying to justify it.
My point exactly. And that's all I want the world to realize.
So why didn't you do your research before hand to find out the program costs twice as much as anywhere else. I knew that before going to Riddle thats why I had everything except my CFI when I started there. Was it because they "guaranteed" an interview? Hate to break it to you everyone at the time everyone was hiring, you just had to have a pulse and you didn't need to spend 100,000 or have the Riddle name. I was hired at my first regional 3 months after you graduated, now furloughed from my first LCC. So sorry, no sympathy. Do your research.
PS. I didn't go throught the CAPT program, I did it just like the rest of us. Networked and kept bugging H.R.
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Lay off the guy a bit. He is saying he made a mistake, which is more than just about any others who did the same thing.
I just hope ninja, that you don't just regret it because you ended up with a lot of debt and no job. If you were sitting right seat now would you feel that it was worth it? A word of warning to those that are thinking of doing the same (who probably don't frequent this board anyways but here goes). Spending $80,000-100,000 and not getting at least a degree is a huge mistake!
People take different paths in life and aviation, some work out others don't. I know many guys who work at "the majors" with no degree, and lots who are at the regionals or not flying with a degree. It doesn't mean either one made a mistake! While a degree does help it is not mandantory but it does allow for other potential avenues if the flight side doesn't work out.
Everyone pays for a job one way or another..... We all paid to get our certificates and time. The military guys pay by potentially putting their life on the line as well as deployment time. As mentioned above SWA requires you to buy a type, heck you used to not even get an interview without it.
What needs to happen is regional airline pay has got to increase! This will only be done by the guys now at the regionals demanding it...... The Railway Labor Act really handcuffs our ability to force better working conditions and pay but when the opotunity arrives regional pilots must stand strong! I did my time (over 10 years) flying for the regionals so I know what its like to be treated like the bastard step child and be paid dirt.
If I remember correctly this program required you to already have a degree. Its was "Hey if you want to become a pilot and have a degree give us 100,00 and we'll get you an interview." Not unlike ATP, the Mesa Program and others, except this one costs twice as much. Just so you could put Riddle on you resume oh and I think an MD-90 (DC-9) Type rating, since the CAPT program had one just for their students. A DC-9 type with 400TT means so much. That explains alot of the cost.
Man, I can't wait for this program to take a dirt nap for good. I just feel really bad for all their students...wish I had a way to warn them that the snake oil they bought was the same brand of BS that burned me and some others! They took my money, and my dream to fly for a career! They lied about all those "guaranteed interviews" from the beginning! My 10-12 months turned out to be over 18 months! And the student they interviewed is estimating his/her "1-year program" to be a possible 2-year program!! I hope he packed enough cash in his luggage to take him/her through that extra year!
As I said in the past, stay the hell away from this CRAPT program! Karma man...I'm going out for a beer to celebrate their demise! Spread the word! CAPT is definitely NOT the place you want to send anyone for flight training!
didnt u post this on flightinfo? this sounds familiar.
ImEbee, I would have been satisfied if they gave me those 7-9 "guaranteed interviews!" At least, if they did that, they fulfilled their part of the bargain. I NEVER expected them to give me a job. I always knew going into the program that I had no network, I was very green switching to a different career path, and that I needed the Embry-Riddle name and their networking power to have a chance. See, if 7-9 airlines I interviewed with said, "no thank you, now go away" then that would have been that and I would not be on here today warning people away from CAPT. This is not to say that their mismangement was acceptable. But at least, I got what I bought. To me, all I wanted were two things from CAPT:
1. Completion in 10-12 months
2. 7-9 guaranteed interviews
Neither of these advertised items were met. And for the record, as an ab initio pilot, you walk out of the program with:
Commercial multi-engine airplane, instrument airplane, dc-9 type, 225 total time in your log book. That's it. No commercial single engine. No CFI. No additional flight time. I had to fight the program to get my commercial single engine out of them because I had so much time left when I graduated from the program.
Believe me, I know today that there are alternatives to CAPT, and that is exactly what I am trying to accomplish with my story and my posts. I want the world to know that CAPT is a scam and a ripoff and that there are other ways to go about flight training that would be cheaper and just as effective. Unfortunately, over 160 students will suffer at the hands of the CAPT mismanagement and lies. They have to be stopped.
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Graduated CAPT 10/2005 Summa Cum Laude w/ Highest Time (459TT/101ME) compared to any cadet at the time. No Job, Big Debt!
Tip: Stay away from CAPT!
So if you were indeed sitting right seat, it would have been worth it then. Whether they set up the interviews they offered or not, were you not able to get one on your own? I see you graduated in October 2005. I do believe the job market was well in pilots favor back then.
I do believe the job market was well in pilots favor back then.
Yep and that was exactly my point before. All you had to do was breathe to get a job at that time. Yet he is still complaining after the program shut its doors. Again do your RESEARCH and quit expecting anything, no matter what they promised. What makes you any different from all the other pilots out there? We all had or have our Comm. Multi, why should you have gotten an interview before the rest of us, because you paid more?
I'm really sorry for sounding so harsh but life isn't fair....move on or save up and get your CFI.
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