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Old 02-04-2009, 10:24 PM   2 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #21 (permalink)
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OK guys - look on the list at the name Albury, CD. It lists him as an EAL 89 SCAB, then in the notes it says "retired 1980. Enola Gay co-pilot".

This simply can't be correct.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Well according to the above post it looks like the list needs to be updated

GoJets is not on the list yet the oh mighty Comair is on there

Granted I fly corporate so at the end of the day none of this applys to me its just funny how Comair and Rah air praised and Gojet is bashed. At the end of the day bash on but they're all just stepping stones to other flying venues.
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Well according to the above post it looks like the list needs to be updated

GoJets is not on the list yet the oh mighty Comair is on there

Granted I fly corporate so at the end of the day none of this applys to me its just funny how Comair and Rah air praised and Gojet is bashed. At the end of the day bash on but they're all just stepping stones to other flying venues.
Ignorant post. 3 Comair pilots crossed their own picket line, hence they are scabs...not the whole pilot group In fact, Comair deserves a few "atta-boy's" from the rest of us for having the juevos to go on strike, especially as a regional.

The Enola Gay guy could have been working in the Training Department past 60.
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Thanks for posting the list. I had not seen it prior to this, though I had never looked.

My Dad was a 37 year pilot at UAL. Even to the day he retired in '99, he would tell a scab FO that if it did not directly relate to the flight, not to open his/her mouth because they had nothing to discuss.

I know plenty of pilots that actually carry that list around.

You do NOT ever want to do anything to be put on it....ever.
Would your Dad, with his 37th year pay, have given that FO a loan to feed his family, pay his mortgage, medical bills etc. so as to not be one name on the 75 page list? I would be willing to bet no, especially a UAL pilot. I think the 20 year old RJ pilots need to do some research and actually understand the situation before something so ignorant is praised and considered acceptable. Before you respond to this post, please do not think I'm defending the notion of a scab, but as you can see, there are such varied definitions of a scab and yet one list. I'd like to meet the "guys" that carry that list around. Again, this is evidence that as a group, pilots are more consumed by hurting others with the mask of helping the industry, than we are actually doing some good!
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Would your Dad, with his 37th year pay, have given that FO a loan to feed his family, pay his mortgage, medical bills etc. so as to not be one name on the 75 page list?
Good point. Like I said above. By no means am I dismissing the damage caused by scabs, but it's easy to bash if you live high on the hog or have no expenses. Once you have a wife, kids, mortgage, etc, things seem more desperate.

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Again, this is evidence that as a group, pilots are more consumed by hurting others with the mask of helping the industry, than we are actually doing some good!
Some, not all.
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Would your Dad, with his 37th year pay, have given that FO a loan to feed his family, pay his mortgage, medical bills etc. so as to not be one name on the 75 page list? I would be willing to bet no, especially a UAL pilot.!
Why? That's not the 37th year pilots problem. It's the guy without a job's problem, the UA pilot didn't cause that, why should they be giving out loans? No one cares WHY you're willing to be a scab, I'm sure there are heart touching explanations, they only care that you are.
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Select Crewmember Advocating B-scale....this is what the little book at UA is titled.
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I don't see what you guys are all in a fuss about scabs. Give it time, and enough of them, and ALPA will welcome them all back--with forgiveness, ala Continental.

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Scab - noun
the incrustation that forms over a sore or wound during healing.
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I'd like to meet the "guys" that carry that list around. Again, this is evidence that as a group, pilots are more consumed by hurting others with the mask of helping the industry, than we are actually doing some good!
Well, go JS on UAL (as an example) sometime. Eventually, you'll run into a guy that carries it. Years ago in the basement of the UAL TK by the old Mainliner club there was a set of bathrooms with some not so nice things written about various scabs at that airline.

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Give it time, and enough of them, and ALPA will welcome them all back--with forgiveness, ala Continental.

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Good point, I couldn't believe that (well, actually I could) when it happened.
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