Does anyone else wonder why this is on the regionals forum?
Calling pilots who pick up open time while others are on furlough, who work for alter-ego carriers, or who just upset the apple cart and undermine the profession "scabs" devalues the word. You will never understand what it is like until the day you walk a picket line.
That is all there should be to this thread . . .
That was exactly my point. Every pilot spouting this crap of calling everyone who does something they dont like a scab is stupid. Were shooting ourselves in the foot here. Listen the truth is anyone who swallows everything mgnt says is nieve and dumb, the same can be said for everyone who is on here spouting all this union retoric, if you believe everything the union says hook line and sinker your no better. Like you said a scab is a scab...period, stop bashing people for having to do what they have to do....Im making the point that if you were REALLY concerned about your brothers this would be one way you could help ease the burden, but to most on here it appears the rules of brotherhood only apply to the other guy, as long as your working and happy..Im furloughed, miserable, stressed, and not working for an alter ego, because I believe this will get better some day, but Im for sure tired of hearing a bunch of union mouthpieces saying the same ol thing over and over again....Im not calling the people who pick up open time scabs, im saying "Quit acting like its everyone else who has to sacrifice to make this job what YOU define as better, and if you dont like it then you call them scabs, This whole stupidy has been going on too long...its disgusting
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As a younger pilot, I've got a more practical problem regarding scab labor...
what is the consensus on the most professionally acceptable (from the perspective of the pilot group) way to interact with scab labor?
I've heard of scabs commonly being denied jump seats, having their possessions stolen, and in extreme cases being assaulted. The latter two actions don't seem consistent with professional behavior. Not having a drink or abstaining from conversation with a scab worker seems like a more professional way of dealing.
From the view of a professional pilot, in good standing, what behavior is reasonably expected of a pilot when dealing with a scab?
I'm not looking to be told what to do...but I am curious about the opinions from the pilot group...not just from extremists, but also from moderates who, while not supporting scabs, are more interested in conducting themselves professionally while supporting the pilot group.
What are the real dos and don'ts?
Short of physical violence, I would treat a SCAB like somebody who just banged my wife.
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How can you blame anyone for doing what they need to survive?
Don't exaggerate now, Sky. Where's the evidence that anyone had to cross a picket line in order to survive? Those who respected picket lines have endured hardship and sacrifice, but they (and their honor) survived.
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How can you blame your company for merely trying to survive under the crush of having to pay union extorted bloated salaries?
The only bloated salaries in the industry are self-awarded to management, despite their blunders. Most pilots are underpaid, despite their excellent performance.
It is difficult to find an enemy when your own union that is the one who is selling you out. The industry has become a shark tank and is difficult to find allegiance when everyone is out for themselves.
How can you blame your company for merely trying to survive under the crush of having to pay union extorted bloated salaries?
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Excellent points.
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The only bloated salaries in the industry are self-awarded to management, despite their blunders. Most pilots are underpaid, despite their excellent performance.
While I agree with you that most pilots are underpaid, (especially at the regionals and early years at majors) I agree with Sky. I have said before that many union reps are like typical politicians. They can smile for the cameras, shake hands, kiss babies, give rousing speeches about how they will "fight for you" while they are really living the high life themselves. What a sham. It amazes me that people are so gullible. Like I said in a different post about the auto industry, unions ARE NECESSARY because of greedy and selfish people. Unfortunately, unions of many industries are often run by greedy, selfish people who line their own pockets while the real workers wait for real solutions.
I would be willing to bet no, especially a UAL pilot.
Excuse me sir, but UA pilots struck the B-scale in the 80s. My father is also a UA captain and cut multiple checks to the Comair strike fund in 01.
Quit making excuses for scabs. A scab is someone who crosses an ALPA-sanctioned picket line. Not a Gojetter, not a Freedom A-lister, and especially not guys who pick up open time.
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