Better Work Rules = more jobs
02-27-2009, 05:08 PM
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Better Work Rules = more jobs
So if the FAA where to change some work rules for us, how many jobs can come from each? for example if they changed the duty from 16 to 12, 30 in 10, 10 hours behind door rest, ect..
the duty could create allot of jobs for the international flights
the 30 in 10 could create some across the board
10 hours rest would affect mostly the regionals
point is write your congressman these need to be changed anyway.
the duty could create allot of jobs for the international flights
the 30 in 10 could create some across the board
10 hours rest would affect mostly the regionals
point is write your congressman these need to be changed anyway.
02-27-2009, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
So if the FAA where to change some work rules for us, how many jobs can come from each? for example if they changed the duty from 16 to 12, 30 in 10, 10 hours behind door rest, ect..
the duty could create allot of jobs for the international flights
the 30 in 10 could create some across the board
10 hours rest would affect mostly the regionals
point is write your congressman these need to be changed anyway.
the duty could create allot of jobs for the international flights
the 30 in 10 could create some across the board
10 hours rest would affect mostly the regionals
point is write your congressman these need to be changed anyway.
02-27-2009, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Seatownflyer
Awhile back someone pointed out that if rest requirements change then we'd lose quite a few days off that we currently enjoy. I'm not saying I'm for or against longer rest requirements but I sure do like my days off.
At my current company, a typical 4 day has one overnight in the 12-14 hour range, then the other two in the 8-10 hour range. I could easily see the above case happening if the example of a min 10 hour overnight becoming FAR.
02-28-2009, 07:32 AM
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The companies will not want to build a trip full of minimum rest overnights...as soon as the schedule slips, you can never catch up.
We would end up losing days off (or maybe there would be more standups?).
We would end up losing days off (or maybe there would be more standups?).
02-28-2009, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The companies will not want to build a trip full of minimum rest overnights...as soon as the schedule slips, you can never catch up.
We would end up losing days off (or maybe there would be more standups?).
We would end up losing days off (or maybe there would be more standups?).
03-02-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
Not only that but wouldn't your overall pay get less? Seems like if you weren't able to work as much, you would get paid less. Am I missing something?
03-02-2009, 06:01 PM
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I dont' have any problem with 8 block hours per day it's trying to do it (or any amount of flying) in a 15 hour duty day and throwing in a really early show or late release the day before or after on top of it.
03-02-2009, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
So if the FAA where to change some work rules for us, how many jobs can come from each? for example if they changed the duty from 16 to 12, 30 in 10, 10 hours behind door rest, ect..
the duty could create allot of jobs for the international flights
the 30 in 10 could create some across the board
10 hours rest would affect mostly the regionals
point is write your congressman these need to be changed anyway.
the duty could create allot of jobs for the international flights
the 30 in 10 could create some across the board
10 hours rest would affect mostly the regionals
point is write your congressman these need to be changed anyway.
The promotion role is heavily influenced by IATA lobbies that would strenuously fight any additional expense to it's members (the airlines).
Bottom line is that the airlines have a better union than any labor organization in terms of influencing regulatory change of the FARs.
The best bet IMO is still patterned bargaining by labor.
03-02-2009, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
I dont' have any problem with 8 block hours per day it's trying to do it (or any amount of flying) in a 15 hour duty day and throwing in a really early show or late release the day before or after on top of it.
03-02-2009, 06:32 PM
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I have written recently but, for the vast majority of airline pilots, 16 hours isn't their duty period. At many airlines, your duty period is less than 15 and rare if it goes that far . . .
A lot of contracts restrict their pilots to way less than 16 - these pilots dont care to write . . . ALPA needs to grow a set . . .
A lot of contracts restrict their pilots to way less than 16 - these pilots dont care to write . . . ALPA needs to grow a set . . .
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