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Old 03-16-2009, 04:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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And citizens of UAE, S. Korea, and Japan can also work as pilots here in the US, so we have a de-facto recip program.

It is actually the EU nations with which we need to tighten things up in this regard.
While it is true foreign citizens can work at US airlines as pilots, they have to get their immigration stuff squared away before they even apply for the job. In other words, unless you are in the US legally and eligible to work already for any job (with a few exceptions such as jobs requiring security clearances or Fed jobs), they can never work for a US airline. On the other hand, let's say a US citizen is trying to get a job at KAL. If employed, KAL will get a permit to work in Korea for the pilot. It comes down to 'what is the basis of your immigration/employment authorization status'.
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Old 03-16-2009, 05:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 03-16-2009, 05:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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All these big flight academies are a big reason for the problem. They import these foriegners by getting them visas and the permission to come here. It's how all these schools stay in business.
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All these big flight academies are a big reason for the problem. They import these foriegners by getting them visas and the permission to come here. It's how all these schools stay in business.
You gotta find out if those foreigners get green card eventually or not. If they don't no big deal. They can't move on and take the airline jobs. If they do get green card, well....
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Um have you guys ever actually taken a look at how many american pilots are working in the middle east and in Asia.

Spare the oh my god we are so hard done by because someone who wasnt born in this country has a job as a pilot while some other americans are out of a job.
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Old 03-16-2009, 05:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Um have you guys ever actually taken a look at how many american pilots are working in the middle east and in Asia.

Spare the oh my god we are so hard done by because someone who wasnt born in this country has a job as a pilot while some other americans are out of a job.
See my previous post...citizens of most asian and middle-eastern countries can come here and get work, so it is reciprocal. EU is where there is an opportunity imbalance.
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You guys crack me up. Reading comprehension is lacking by a lot of you.

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"In order to be considered for employment pilots must meet certain basic criteria:

. All applicants shall be licensed by Transport Canada to act as First Officers on 705 category aircraft.
. Hold a valid Transport Canada Class 1 Instrument Rating.
. Hold a valid Transport Canada Class 1 Medical.
. Must be able to obtain an Airport Restricted Area Access Clearance (i.e. security pass).
. Hold a current passport and any additional visa documentation required to operate aircraft within the USA.
. Must be legally entitled to work in Canada.
. Must have completed a High School diploma.
. Candidates must meet Transport Canada English proficiency standard. "
Where does it say that you have to be a Canadian citizen?

You guys can go up there and marry a Canadian girl, reside over there, and get the right to work in Canada. I don't see the issue. Quit being cry babies. The US doesn't give out visas for pilots to come work here at our airlines. You are either a citizen of the US, or a legal permanent resident of the US, to be able to obtain a permanent job over here.

Quit your whining. Air China isn't coming here and injecting their pilots into our regionals.
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All these big flight academies are a big reason for the problem. They import these foriegners by getting them visas and the permission to come here. It's how all these schools stay in business.

Jesuschrist man, you're a moron!
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All these big flight academies are a big reason for the problem. They import these foriegners by getting them visas and the permission to come here. It's how all these schools stay in business.
Actually, that's not the case at all. Those guys come to TRAIN here, injecting money into OUR economy, then they go back to their respective country and work in THEIR country. We benefit from their business, and they get to go fly for their own country. I don't see what's so difficult to understand.
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I don't know of any US airline that sponsors for work permit for foreign pilots or one that has in any recent history. Care to elaborate?
Every flight school I worked had numerous H1B's on staff (not sure the status of that post 9/11)...most of those folks somehow found their way into US airlines. Both regionals I have worked at have plenty of foreign (mostly european) pilots. I know one person personally who was sponsored by a regional (during the boom).

Actually I believe it is now more difficult than before 9/11, but the damage is done. Something to be vigilant about during the next up-cycle.

Again, euros are more than welcome, but we need reciprocal access to their job market.
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