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Old 03-31-2009, 05:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just curious about the reserve work rules at different carriers. I figure this could be important since most on reserve right now have probably been there a while, and wont be seeing a line very soon. So whats the good, the bad, and the ugly about your reserve rules?
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Reserve at SkyWest is no good...in fact pretty bad and ugly too. I don't think the company is so much to blame as is the Pilot group. Up until recently, rarely did a Pilot sit reserve, period. Work rules where therefore negotiated for the lineholder, not the reserve guy. Now that that has changed, those reserve rules are getting a second look at, and some headway has even been made (notably long-call).
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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At Compass, reserve guys get used and abused. Reserve average 85-100 credit per month. There are ever some guys stupid enough to accept 9 days on in a row..
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just curious about the reserve work rules at different carriers. I figure this could be important since most on reserve right now have probably been there a while, and wont be seeing a line very soon. So whats the good, the bad, and the ugly about your reserve rules?
I posted many of XJT's work rules here:

Airline Pilot Pay - Beyond the #s, NO QUESTIONS PLEASE!!!!!

You can find work rules for other in that thread as well.
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It depends on the airline you go to. Some have looooooooonggggggnngnggggg reserves so they have some incentives. Others that operate on lower pilots have basically no rules other than to show up and wait for a call until you hold a line. It's not so bad when you hear stories of pilots that have been on reserve for years, like aa.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Reserve at SkyWest is no good...in fact pretty bad and ugly too. I don't think the company is so much to blame as is the Pilot group. Up until recently, rarely did a Pilot sit reserve, period. Work rules where therefore negotiated for the lineholder, not the reserve guy. Now that that has changed, those reserve rules are getting a second look at, and some headway has even been made (notably long-call).
Agreed, Im one of the skywest reserves. I havent met anyone yet that claims reserve here is better than their prior company. Long call has a great intent, however crew scheduling generally finds a way to screw it up. On the Bro, long call sees alot of dropped legs with ready reserve attached. 4-5 days a week of that gets old.

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At Compass, reserve guys get used and abused. Reserve average 85-100 credit per month. There are ever some guys stupid enough to accept 9 days on in a row..
How many days a month are they getting off? Atleast the credit is respectable. Its very challenging to make over the 75 hr guarantee at skywest, since were overstaffed and management is in cost cutting mode. 75 hours and no per diem makes for small paychecks. Getting worked like a dog is no fun either though. We get 10 days off in a 30 day cycle, 11 off in a 31 day cycle.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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11 days off for reserves
Long call (12 hours) and short call (2 hours plus 1 hour to duty in before flight departs)
Reserve bucket system, either call me first (ordered by seniority number), or "no preference" (ordered by credit hours)
Trips are assigned in bucket order (4 day trips to 4 day bucket, etc.) in the following order: long call CMF, long call NP, short call CMF, short call NP

Scheduling is not supposed to break up trips to multiple parts, so if you are long call, you mostly get whole trips, not fragments.

Min day: 3.75, duty rig applies to scheduled and rescheduled reserve trips
Ready reserve is 8 hours/ 4 hrs ready reserve min day guarantee
Can only do 6 ready reserve shifts in a month, only short call can do ready reserve, ready reserves are given to reserve pilots with max days of availability (4, 5 or 6) and min credit hours.

There is a reserve list to view the bucket list for assigning trips and ready reserve, as well as the ability to view every other reserve pilot's schedule.

For the most part scheduling does a respectable job assigning trips. Errors are made occasionally but it's night and day compared to the old contract, and most regional reserve systems.
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11 days off for reserves
Long call (12 hours) and short call (2 hours plus 1 hour to duty in before flight departs)
Reserve bucket system, either call me first (ordered by seniority number), or "no preference" (ordered by credit hours)
Trips are assigned in bucket order (4 day trips to 4 day bucket, etc.) in the following order: long call CMF, long call NP, short call CMF, short call NP

Scheduling is not supposed to break up trips to multiple parts, so if you are long call, you mostly get whole trips, not fragments.

Min day: 3.75, duty rig applies to scheduled and rescheduled reserve trips
Ready reserve is 8 hours/ 4 hrs ready reserve min day guarantee
Can only do 6 ready reserve shifts in a month, only short call can do ready reserve, ready reserves are given to reserve pilots with max days of availability (4, 5 or 6) and min credit hours.

There is a reserve list to view the bucket list for assigning trips and ready reserve, as well as the ability to view every other reserve pilot's schedule.

For the most part scheduling does a respectable job assigning trips. Errors are made occasionally but it's night and day compared to the old contract, and most regional reserve systems.
Sounds just like XJET reserve
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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At Compass, reserve guys get used and abused. Reserve average 85-100 credit per month. There are ever some guys stupid enough to accept 9 days on in a row..
*note 25-35 of those hours are deadhead (at 75% pay)... in FEB, my deadhead credit was literally equal to half of my actually flown credit.
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Colgan Reserve Policy.

It is horrible

No Min Pay!
1 Hour Call out or 1.5 if at a base.
10 days "off"
Reserve built in hard lines as well as reserve lines
No call out based on seniority, just at crew schedulings whim.
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