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Old 06-28-2009, 12:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Lets not forget that many analysists and other such mucky-mucks in the papers are expecting many airlines to go back into bankruptcy in the fall if the economy doesn't improve and/or gas prices go back up. I would imagine the regionals will be hit very hard if their major partners go Ch. 11. SkyWest is probably one of the best positioned out of all of the majors but then again, if UA and/or US Air goes south, all of their regionals will be sent along for the ride.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The poolies might see a class or two but only if the rumored UAL Q’s or Mesa’s downfall comes to fruition………………………please don’t hold your breath. JO’s a cockroach and cockroaches can survive a nuclear holocaust.


If that happens the ASA furloughed pilots would be transferred to the Sky West certificate if they choose before any poolies are given class dates.
But not with seniority
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Old 06-28-2009, 03:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Well, like many others, I've been in the hiring pool for one year now. I know things change daily and that it's hard to predict the future, but does anyone have a guestimate as to when classes might resume? I'm hoping no later than next spring, but I guess it all depends on how much flying Delta and United require this fall and next spring. Well, I guess the good news is that no furloughs have been announced.
My guess is no hiring for 4 yrs, and then it will be to replace discouraged FO's at the bottom. NO upgrades for much longer.
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Long term I hoped it would be best for the industry if more pilot groups belonged to one union.

Painful because alpa at the regional level sucks, period. I don't think they would do anything for SKW, except maybe create an antagonistic relationship with the company. As far as taking care of our pilot group goes, I would vastly prefer an independent union...seems to work for AA, SWA, etc.
I agree, I think it would be best fo the industry if all pilot groups would be under one union.

I also think that ALPA has turned the corner on the regional industry and its pilots. They have made great strides lately, not to take away anything from all their safety advocacy that has helped all pilots.

ALPA does not decide what kind of relationship your pilots have with management. Your MEC decides on that in their actions and communications. And your MEC is democraticly elected or recalled by the line pilots. This whole issue with management relations is a big misconception that ALPA has. ALPA only provides the toolbox and your MEC decides how to use it.

But let me ask you this, what has SWAPA, APA, FPA, IPA, USAPA, IBT, or even SAPA done for the regional pilots that ALPA hasn't?
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I think I read in the last insight or whatever it is called that the Midwest Connect planes already have homes after MKE.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I think I read in the last insight or whatever it is called that the Midwest Connect planes already have homes after MKE.
They do, and then some.
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:15 PM   #27 (permalink)
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You fly the 340 for SKW???

Management has pretty much said no furloughs. They don't make statements like that lightly, so I'm guessing no furloughs in the current environment.

Hiring? My guess would be 18 months or so, maybe less, assuming that there is no large gain in flying (ie mag liquidation).

No i don't work for SKW... thats why i didn't say that i did. I said a friend told me that..... he works for sky. Just passing info along. Like every one else here. But thanks for implying what you like.
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But not with seniority
What about longevity?
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They do, and then some.
unfortunately, I will believe it when I'm flying it
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:12 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I was told by a chief pilot on Friday that we would have to hire furloughed UAL pilots before ASA or off the street due to an "upcoming deal".
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