iPilot

If I remember correctly a 172 wouldn't be able to make it 50 miles during one lesson, even if done linearly. Maybe a twin. I used to do that trick by pairing two students up. We'd fly to a close airport and have a nice lunch, they'd switch places and we'd do the other kid's time on the way back. Even then it was a stretch to get all the way out and back.

STILL GROUNDED

This is the crap I was worried about. I read it that I if not able to upgrade in three years will now have to go retrain on a Seminole and take a check ride with some "I'm going to save the worlds passengers" DE who wants to prove himself and risk failing a part 61 checkride and risk loosing my job after paying out what I am sure to be a jacked up price because they know you are at their mercy price. The bill needs to read that the pilots airline will type the pilot with an ATP after 3 years regardless of position held! But we as voters don't have lobbyist to save us money on training costs.

Politicians suck!

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jelloy683

What's going to change about the pilot records? How are they going to be made more "readily available" to the employer? Don't they see everything anyway?

TheRedBaron1967

I would agree with you if the government didn't keep us from striking but they do. We have no recourse. Company execs can do what pncl did and go forever w/o giving their pilots a contract and we the pilots just have to bend over and take it.

skyhawk123

I got furlough last year and I found a job overseas... which is good for now. but I was wondering with this new bill how can I log those hours towards my ATP, I am getting close to the 1500 mark but I have not logged a single hour in my US logbook...

Does anybody know if I have to legalize those hours in the US or just log them like I used to do?

any thoughts?

DBSociety

Has a map of the voting breakdown ~ House Vote 778 - H.R.3371: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended - NYTimes.com

Find it interesting that all of the Nays were Republican and were in areas with minimal aviation activity. For instance Utah district 1.

I support the concept/intent behind the bill and would be interested in knowing why they disagree..not out of a desire for an argument but perhaps they have unaddressed concerns. Either way I plan on contacting each of them and finding out.

subrat

This is great news! I get to spend another 3 years instructing making around 9k a year. So I can look forward to making 20k a year when I get hired by a regional as a ATP rated pilot.

hockeypilot44

When you put it that way, I'm not sure why anyone would want to be a professional pilot these days.

Thedude

A logbook is a logbook, it doesn't matter what country your flying in. Yes, I realize that some countries have there own format.

I would suggest that you get your logbook stamped by a company official to "certify" your hours. At least this would give a little more credence to the hours you have logged. I say this because I am am suspicious of guys with low time that get foreign jobs and start logging lots of hours or guys that have never been Capt before suddenly logging PIC with nothing other than a (cooked) logbook to show as evidence.

bcrosier

Oh wah! Cripes, go back fifteen years and you had to have 2500 hours for a regional to even look at you. Pilots hired at that point in time brought some real world experience to the cockpit and had flown in icing and thunderstorms for multiple seasons.

I'm not quite sure where this entitlement attitude comes from, but aside from Kit Darby and his inbred counterparts at pilot mills, I've met very few people affiliated with aviation who sell sunshine on how easy life as a pilot is. Either you never asked the question, didn't listen when you were told, or you simply chose to believe that the days of 300 hour jet FO's and 1500 hour captains were here to stay forever. In any event, the past few years has been a historical aberration (and hopefully will remain so in many aspects, including pay). Hiring standards need to be raised for a number of reasons, and the morons who run airlines are too shortsighted to do what is ultimately in their best long-term interests. Even if it's somewhat misguided, congress is actually doing something close to the right thing here.