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Old 08-16-2009, 08:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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MESA and Trans States. Kind of ironic for TSA because UA 50 seaters is all they do, plus they got people on furlough. Kind of ironic for Mesa because they're supposed to lose 26 UA CRJ2s.
actually it's not replacing any tsa flying. We haven't seen a reduction of flying at all
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Old 08-16-2009, 08:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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actually it's not replacing any tsa flying. We haven't seen a reduction of flying at all
It's only wishful thinking by a guy who tries to take out his anger/jealousy on every other airline but his own.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:01 PM   #23 (permalink)
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This does not bode well for Mesa or TSA...Time to start looking for another job...
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:53 PM   #24 (permalink)
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actually it's not replacing any tsa flying. We haven't seen a reduction of flying at all
I dunno, I've seen quite a bit... This time last year we had, what, 60 planes? Now we have 27... Sounds like a hell of a reduction to me! Not Xjt's fault, but I still don't think this would bode well for us...
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there is no official announcement. just a rumor. nothing to see here.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:52 PM   #26 (permalink)
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But who has a better contract? I say XJT.
No, I think we are ALMOST the same. Not sure if you guys have trip and duty rigs but I know we have long call days and I think our min day is higher. I honestly think AWAC has the best contract, with XJT being our kissing cousin (kinda gross to think about!). Frankly, I think both of our companies have GREAT contracts that other companies should try to target to exceed.
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No, I think we are ALMOST the same. Not sure if you guys have trip and duty rigs but I know we have long call days and I think our min day is higher. I honestly think AWAC has the best contract, with XJT being our kissing cousin (kinda gross to think about!). Frankly, I think both of our companies have GREAT contracts that other companies should try to target to exceed.
I could probably sift through a ton of threads to get the answer, and it's only for comparison sake.

XJT, no real trip/duty rigs per say. We have a min value for a 4 day, but it rarely comes into play. There is a 2hr min pay credit for a duty period. Comes into play if you have a multi day pairing and the first/last leg is the only leg and is say 90 minutes, you get 2 hrs of pay. If we have a calender day layover, it's 3 hours of pay credit. Pay leg by leg as opposed to a daily guaranty. Does AWAC do leg by leg, by the duty period, or by the trip for pay protection purposes?

What's the min pay per day for AWAC as well as the trip/duty rig?

XJT has long call reserve, but I think I heard AWAC's is better. Can't show before noon on the first day, if not called by noon on the last day you're done. It's a 12 hour call out from notification to showtime, it naturally comes with plenty of caveats. One being that LC's are FIRST in call order. XJT reserve is set up so that reserve pilots bid on a line with the same on call period all month, is AWAC's on call period day to day? Also, XJT has LC reserve lines, as well as "floating reserve lines". You get more days off than a regular reserve on an FRL, but don't get to bid for days on/off or call out time. Crew planning builds your reserve line, you can "request" to have certain days off.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:37 AM   #28 (permalink)
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who would this be replacing?
UAL mainline 737 flying.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:55 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I do hope that XJT gets some good news. They deserve it after their past few years of poor management decisions. I do hope they enjoy the UAX ops in IAD though. Those guys will quickly see just how awesome CAL runs an airline.
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XJT undercutting mainline pilots?!?

Say it ain't so!
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