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01-29-2015, 06:32 PM
#5851
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Precarious
Posts: 378
Originally Posted by joemhama
I don't think its fair to call this an investment on your part. The company is requiring us to switch to iPads. We don't have a choice in the matter. Its their iPad, if they want them to stay in good shape, they need to provide the equipment to do so, not the pilots. Don't spend any of your own money on this charade.
01-29-2015, 06:53 PM
#5852
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 988
Originally Posted by jarretk
So I guess it would be wise to spend $90 on an otterbox or something to protect my $600 investment. Anyone know any details on aircraft mount instalation?
Originally Posted by conquestdz
From a certain standpoint you are correct, the company should spring for a case. But they aren't going to. They will, however certainly expect you to pay for a broken ipad. $600 is the better part of a months take home pay for a first year F/O, and an off brand plastic case can be bought on Amazon for about $20. That is pretty cheap insurance to prevent a very nasty sting.
01-29-2015, 07:02 PM
#5853
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Precarious
Posts: 378
Originally Posted by 404yxl
Hey, with that line of thinking, why don't you buy protection for the galley carts while you're at it.
That won't do a thing to stop the company from charging a first year FO $600 if they decide to.
That won't do a thing to stop the company from charging a first year FO $600 if they decide to.
Last edited by conquestdz; 01-29-2015 at 07:03 PM. Reason: grammar
01-29-2015, 07:06 PM
#5854
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 228
Originally Posted by jarretk
So I guess it would be wise to spend $90 on an otterbox or something to protect my $600 investment. Anyone know any details on aircraft mount instalation?
01-29-2015, 07:40 PM
#5855
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: FO
Posts: 131
I don't want, nor do I feel it is my responsibility to buy proper protection for something I'm required to have. If something isn't worked out with the company for replacements in the event of a broken ipad; I will have to rethink a case. A new $600 ipad and FO salary don't go together, haha.
01-29-2015, 07:41 PM
#5856
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Posts: 988
Originally Posted by conquestdz
I didn't have to sign to take responsibility for the galley cart, but I did have to sign for the Ipad. Putting a case on the ipad will likely not change the companies position that I owe $600 if I break it, but it will make that circumstance much less likely, and that is worth the $20 to me.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
01-29-2015, 08:01 PM
#5857
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Precarious
Posts: 378
Originally Posted by 404yxl
I don't expect you to get it and never will. The company could change their policy and require you to take a galley cart with you and you would decide to buy protection for it instead of questioning how dumb it is for you to pay to protect company property.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
01-29-2015, 08:33 PM
#5858
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: F/O
Posts: 35
Originally Posted by 404yxl
I don't expect you to get it and never will. The company could change their policy and require you to take a galley cart with you and you would decide to buy protection for it instead of questioning how dumb it is for you to pay to protect company property.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
01-29-2015, 08:57 PM
#5859
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 270
I was told if the Ipad was damaged during normal use it was covered. example: falls off mount in the plane.
01-30-2015, 03:54 AM
#5860
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Posts: 988
Originally Posted by conquestdz
Take it easy junior. I do get it. From a point of principal, I think there should be an LOA, company provided covers etc. From a real world we all live in stand point, shelling out $20 for a cheap case to prevent a $600 liability sounds a lot better than going without. Sure it isn't the moral high ground but not really different than what you have been doing for years. Did you carry your jepps in a good chart bag that you paid for? Did you demand that the company pay for your chart case? Why not, you were carrying around their Jepp charts. I bet your chart case cost way more than a $20 ipad cover.
The company has been supplying nice Jepp binders where you can tear and spill on those pages and not have to worry about a thing. If you have to replace them, you have the option of this thing called the internet and a crew room printer. Of course free replacement and $700 is the same thing for a first year FO.
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